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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by Yondoza@sh.itjust.works to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

The overarching goal of communism is for laborers to own the means of production instead of an owning/capitalist class. Employee owned businesses are the realization of communism within a capitalist society.

It seems to me that most communist organizations in capitalist societies focus on reform through government policies. I have not heard of organizations focusing on making this change by leveraging the capitalist framework. Working to create many employee owned businesses would be a tangible way to achieve this on a small but growing scale. If successful employee owned businesses are formed and accumulate capital they should be able to perpetuate employee ownership through direct acquisition or providing venture capital with employee ownership requirements.

So my main questions are:

  1. Are organizations focusing on this and I just don't know about it?
  2. If not, what obstacles are there that would hinder this approach to increasing the share labor collective ownership?
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[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 4 points 2 days ago

In that case I suggest a history class.

There have been bloody protests over a long time, people died, there even was a revolution in france.

All for some small changes that are absolutely logical.

Now germany for example is reverting the 8 hr workday without any protests needed.

The ignorance of people is insane.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If conservatives can shape society with executive orders, progressives can as well.

Shaping change grassroots is great, but progressives don't need to be bound by different rules than conservatives.

Edit: toning down my rudeness.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is both rude and ahistorical, laws are passed based on what the ruling class wants. The ruling class cannot abide Socialism unless the Proletariat becomes the ruling class through revolution.

Watch your rudeness if you are going to be confidently incorrect.

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 4 points 1 day ago

But again thats only technically true. There are no progressive majorities and fascist billionaires are manipulating the masses. Misinformation is ruling the discourse. What you're sayibg is factually impossible at this point in time.

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