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Ah yes the "enlightened" democracies (lemmy.ml)

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago

Not at all, Marxists are quite critical of Russia, for example, for being deeply socially reactionary, or China for engaging with trade with Israel, rather than sanctioning it. Marxists don't accept prevailing western narratives surrounding enemies of the US Empire, which anti-Marxists try to simplify into simple reaction against the US Empire, rather than actually engage with the reasoning for supporting, say, China overall fronted by Marxists.

[+] Merva@sh.itjust.works -8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not at all, Marxists are quite critical of Russia

That remains to be seen. Hasn't happened yet. But perhaps some day?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

This is deliberate ignorance. Marxists see the modern Russian Federation as a right-wing, Nationalist Capitalist country that is socially reactionary. Marxists tend to support Russia's movements against the US Empire, which is seen as a much greater evil, and appreciate ties to countries like China that may have a positive influence on Russia reverting to Socialism, but there is much to be critical of in Russia. When you have to make up your opponent's position, you're deliberately lying to others, and frequently yourself as well.

[-] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

How do Marxists see the USSR, China under Mao, Hoxhua, North Korea, Pol Pot, and Sendero Luminoso?

Let me guess:

USSR and Mao generally good, particularly given circumstances; Hoxhua who?; North Korea better than South Korea (and PRC even today is better than ROC); Pol Pot wasn't a true Scotsman; and you like at least a few RATM songs.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

You're pretty close, generally. Pol Pot wasn't a Marxist at all, though, the Khmer Rouge rejected Marxism, and his form of "communism" was deeply anti-materialist and was idealist in nature. He was also stopped by the Vietnamese. Hoxha is Hoxha. The Korea bit and USSR/PRC bits are of course oversimplified, but broadly accepted as correct.