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[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Ahh yes, one of the most qualified people to run for the seat, totally an awful candidate.

No, what was awful was the "won't change" shift, and the courting undesirables from the right. Her campaign fucked up, and now we're left with a literal fucking Nazi Fascist admin.

[-] echutaaa@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago

So qualified she dropped out of primaries in 2020 at 3% in the polls. She was a tool the entire time. No one with half a brain wanted to vote for her, they just didn’t have a fucking choice.

[-] neatchee@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

That was 4 years before she, you know, was vice president for 4 years. That tends to provide valuable experience.

I'm not gonna pretend I liked her but she wasn't a bad candidate to begin a campaign with. But then she ran to the right in an insane way

[-] echutaaa@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago

Polished turds are just shiny turds. She was always unlikable, people only latched on to her because of the despair Biden had the party in before he dropped out. It was a simple overcorrection in sentiment that wasted away from her failure to inspire anything, just like she failed in 2020. No amount of on the job experience teaches the lessons she failed to learn twice.

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There were some things she did early in the primary that kind of inspired me tbh. I really liked the Walz VP pick, especially when it looked like she was going to pick a more conservative Dem like Shapiro the Zionist or Mark Kelly. She also had a more youthful energy to contrast against Biden's clearly aging and tired energy during his campaign. But then they squandered it by listening to the consultants and focus groups trying to triangulate to get Haley Republicans or whatever they were trying to do.

[-] neatchee@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

If you think even 50% of her campaign decision making reflected her personal politics you are mistaken about how the DNC operates.

As I said, on paper she was a fine candidate to start a campaign with. She could have easily converted a win if the party as a whole hadn't totally rejected anything progressive long before she took to the campaign trail.

People forget that after you get elected you still have to collaborate with Congress. Presidential candidates are absolutely beholden to the will of the DNC, and their party platform. They will not hesitate to torpedo a presidency as retaliation for failing to toe the company line

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Pete is also an incredibly qualified person and dropped out, too. Just because people didn't vote for her, doesn't mean she isn't qualified. It means many voters are stupid. Case in point, the current president and his 75+ million fascist voters.

[-] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 7 points 10 months ago

I swear to god if they run Pete (which seems like he's gearing up for it) I will explode from sheer rage. Pete has nothing to offer but more of the same. I hate hearing people pretend like he has a chance. It's absolute delusion and is exactly the problem with all the other democrats. He is uninspiring and we will loose and it will be our fault.

Medicare for all who want it. Lmaoooooooooo. So upsetting. I've never heard a democrat say something more cringe and I watched Hillary say Pokémon go to the polls live.

Your main point that dropping out does not equate to being a bad candidate is valid though.

[-] echutaaa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Stupid voters or not, the job by definition requires you get the votes. If you can’t pull votes you are unqualified. It’s not a trick statement it’s in the job description.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You're putting the cart before the horse.

Stop that.

[-] echutaaa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

What is a horse besides winning the vote? I’m not sure I get your metaphor here

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

Wait, Biden won that primary, so he was clearly the right choice for 2024??

Your logic seems folded.

[-] echutaaa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Not really you’re just missing the point, jobs can have multiple requirements for qualification. Biden failed the same test in the polls as Harris did, primary’s dont make you president, they make you a candidate.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Your argument is that Harris was wrong because she lost a primary.

The only person who passed your test was Biden.

You made a dumb argument is what I'm saying.

[-] echutaaa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

You can make whatever straw man you want but it won’t make you right.

[-] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 10 months ago

She's new Hillary. They ran Hillary against him again but younger and with a tan. Instead of of allowing the possibility of Sanders in 2016 or AOC in 2024 they threw "the game" twice.

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