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https://defed.xyz No real surprises, but the list pales compared to Lemmygrad's still, they have 3x as many defeds.

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[-] eXAt@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm aware of that (and that definitely fuels the majority of the politics of this diaspora) there is a large number that came over pre-USSR times as it was essentially advertised to them to come over and 'settle the west'.

Edit: What I think I mean to say is that a lot of 'Ukrainian Identity' in Canada comes from being descendants of those that arrived in the 'first-wave' section from here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Canadians. Which is kind of interesting because for lots of these people their last connection to the actual land of Ukraine was from over a century ago now.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Huh. Could be the same thing we have in the US with anti-italian-action americans? Where they pretend to be overly italian despite having never been, for instance. Something to do with not fully integrating upon their initial immigration and staying with their same cultural group for quite some time, maybe.

[-] eXAt@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think that is a good explanation. Especially since Canada, more so than maybe anywhere else, seems to have like no national identity so It can be easy to hold on to other aspects.

I guess as a personal example I am like only a quarter Ukrainian by blood but it was by far the culture that was emphasized to me growing up, and in my case some of my settler ancestors are from well before Canada became a thing (my grandmother is trying to investigate whether her ancestry here dates back to the very first boat of Europeans on the continent). So if anyone should have a 'Canadian' identity it should be me but there is nothing there at all lol.

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