How can everyone on a private tracker maintain seed ratios above 1? Is it mathematically impossible? (lemmy.ml)

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I know that private trackers require users to maintain a good seed ratio. How exactly does that work out mathematically? If a bunch of users have seed ratios above 1, does that mean that there are some users who will forever be below 1, and thus end up getting kicked out, thus resulting in the private tracker just... shrinking over time?

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[-] truxnell@aussie.zone 44 points 3 days ago

Mechanics I've seen to avoid this:

Occasional sitewide freeleech
bonus points for seeding duration irregardless of upload, can be traded for reducing download
freeleech torrents (only counts upload not download)
partial freeleech (25/50/75% download counted)
Timed freeleech (free first 24h)
Download % counted reduced based on seed size (seed >1tb and everything's freeleech)
Reduction of download % counted based on rank
Forum competitions for bonus points/freeleech tokens
Freeleech tokens giveouts

Hell, there's quite a few PT's that don't care about ratio and just have minimum seeding times on torrents.

Plenty of these trackers have been running 1-2 decades on 1 or more of these methods just fine.

Almost every site is laughably easy to keep ratio if you read the rules/FAQ, look at some what's to build points/ratio, read the forums, and don't go nuts In the first week while your establishing your account

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 days ago

Iirc what.cd was freeleech for the first week, so i did go nuts. Downloaded anything that seemed popular that didn't have a huge amount of seeders, and then after the freeleech period ended i downloaded basically every freeleech torrent i could find whether i wanted it or not, just for the seeding. This let me keep quite a good ratio despite having a terrible upload speed at the time. Alot of sites will also give bonus seeder points for uploading new torrents i think, especially if they have a request or bounty system.

[-] truxnell@aussie.zone 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't recall w.cd having FL first week, but they did have semi regular weeks. Mebbe you filled it? I had a seedbox, when a FL period started I redid my entire library and permaseeded, shot through the ranks and was basically set for life.

I miss w.cd

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

I never got on Oink but spent some time on What and uploaded a couple albums there. Very difficult to keep ratio high

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago

Websites that waste my time and leave my seedbox occupied yet idle until I play their games really annoy me and I quit them all. I currently have no private tracker accounts except rutracker.

These system want to economise bandwidth and space and leave them all idle.

The problem is your seed stays idle unless there actually is someone willing to download.