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FOSS doesn't
It can as it turns out
In general it is less problematic though
Nope. Self hosted software isnt an issue.
Proton has loads of code that isnt Foss. That's a problem here.
cough Hyprland cough
What about it
A horribly toxic and hateful community, to the point I do not use it.
Far from the only FOSS communities like it, but it's a very prominent example of a piece of software I would not associate with at all.
Compare it to Tesla and Musk.
Proton has a very shady past (mostly in the mail server area, their initial business, easy to search for details as they all were reported reasonably well). I always try to get people to pick literally any of the other alternatives, and it's also why I went with mailbox for my own mail when leaving Google.
Being in Switzerland means they are also not in the EU and not subject to many of the customer protections you would get if they were.
You sound like someone talking before thinking, all while having no clue at all.
A relatively recent example, basically just one of the first search results.
Then there was the CEO endorsing Trump, or his politics, or one of the controversial nominees. It's been a while so I don't remember the exact specifics, but at the very least it caused quite a stir and caused backpedaling by the company (and the fact that it was from his personal x-account, not from the company).
Did you even read it
If you operate in a country, you have to abide by the laws of it. Swiss laws are quite good if not the best ones, when it comes to privacy topics. This, however, does not protect you from criminal investigators fighting crime. And things like observing individuals is not done lightly, and needs the approval from courts.
So it you are a criminal and think you can break laws and just hide by using encrypted services, well, think again.
Yes sure, completely ignore the 2nd point and focus on the example I even said was literally just the first search results.
Also to be clear, in not against using them or even recommending them, but I think there are better alternatives out there, and people seem to just default to recommending proton. Then again who knows, maybe it's good that we got a de-facto default recommendation/alternative to the big-tech offerings.
If you didn't think it was a good point, you shouldn't have presented it.
Oh, I should focus on the point, where even you said you have no idea what exactly happened. Proton yadda yadda Trump yadda yadda bad.
I’ll just leave this here to give some context. Enjoy.