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[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

AIPAC aligns with the interests of the US State Department

I think it's more accurate to say that the US state department aligns with the interests of AIPAC, because that's just how much influence and power AIPAC has.

it's not like the US is opposed to what Israel is doing in the region

Many in the US are opposed to what Israel is doing, but those people have very little representation in the Federal government, largely because of the power and influence of AIPAC.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

because that's just how much influence and power AIPAC has.

The US government has far more power than Israel, let alone AIPAC, could ever have. We have the largest military force on the planet and hundreds of military bases globally. No country or group is able to use US weapons without the knowledge and support of the US State Department, the use of US weapons that we sell (directly or indirectly) is always to prop up the interests of the State Department in that region. AIPAC has such well established in-roads because of how the US benefits from Israel, and also ideological via Christian Zionism to a lesser extent (which far outnumber Jewish Zionists).

Many in the US are opposed to what Israel is doing, but those people have very little representation in the Federal government

Yes, when I say US, I'm referring specifically to the administrative government, not the populace. Much of what the US does is directly against the will of the populace, and many things, especially on foreign policy, are kept out of public view. Manufacturing Consent has been a critical aspect to keep much of the foreign policy of the US outside the minds of Americans, and to paint the military actions that are shown in a positive light.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

interests of the State Department

And who determines the interests of the State Department? Powerful lobbies, like AIPAC. The defense contractors lobby also has a significant amount of influence, but their interests are aligned. They both benefit from the current Israel policy.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, AIPAC does not steer the interests of the State Department. They do all benefit, and AIPAC plays a role in that. My point is that Israel is not the one in control of US foreign policy in the region.

I'm not saying you're doing this here, but some people try to paint AIPAC as in control of the US as a way to frame the conspiracy theory that 'Jews control the world,' as the US is the main superpower globally and has much hegemonic control over the globe. Of course, they also intentionally conflate Judaism and Zionism in that process (which I don't see you doing here). The reason I stress that AIPAC is not in control of the US State Department, is both because it sidelines the role of the US in the Zionist project since the 60's, and to dispel that kind of conspiracy theory.

Here, GDF has an in depth analysis on why has and continues to US supports Israel: Part 1 and Part 2. The short answer is money, but the long answer is well worth the watch

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Here, GDF has an in depth analysis on why has and continues to US supports Israel: Part 1 and Part 2. The short answer is money, but the long answer is well worth the watch

I've seen these videos. They're great. I really like GDF. The second video especially has several references to the incredible influence that Israel, Zionists, and the Jewish lobby in the US has over US foreign policy in the Middle East.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Oh, yeah in terms of what expansionist actions Israel can get away with, there's yet to be a limit. Even at the anger of the US State Dept. Yet America still stays committed to supporting Israel despite how often Israel abuses that partnership, since America still benefits off of the destabilization of the region.

It's definitely a death cult. Israel's overzealous expansionist aims are completely unsustainable and will lead to collapse, along with it's committed ally the US (and maybe some other Western countries)

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