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[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Enforcement needs to be part of a multifaceted approach. Designing streets to match their speed limits is one of those facets. That means that the ever-popular 5-lane “stroad” shouldn’t exist, and certainly shouldn’t have direct access to schools, parking lots, and driveways, because it’s simply not workable to keep the speed limit to a reasonable 40kph when the design says 80. Just as one example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds-v2-qyCc8

And this guy is still an idiot.

[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Ontario highway design standard require roads to be designed to a minimum of 20kph higher than the posted limit. Ontarians also always drive 15-20kph over the limit. Wild coincidence.

There is also no design speed lower than 60kph. So that school zone? It's designed for at least 60kph vehicle travel.

I'm a pretty avid activist in this space. When I lived in Montréal I would never speed on surface roads (highways are a different story). Now that I live in Kingston, I constantly find myself driving over the limit, and missing pedestrians that I shouldn't because of it. It's not like speeding has any advantage either, my average travel speed in Kingston is always 35-40kph thanks to all the lights (which are required becuase of the high speeds and excess lanes, allowing higher travel speeds, but necessitating more lights, which slow average speeds...)

[-] yimby@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Source for further reading? I'm also pretty invested in road design and I'd like to learn more about how it's done in Ontario.

[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Ontario Traffic Manuals (for signages)

Geometric design standards for Ontario highways (everything else)

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There is also no design speed lower than 60kph.

But WHat AbOuT tHE fIRe DePaRtmENT

Roads should feel slow, while continuing to protect pedestrians and the Dutch have done a good job (they’re still implementing it though). Canada is supposed to be building millions of homes because housing shortage and at the same time hasn’t revisited any standards with a modern lens. Fuckin embarrassing!

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Enforcement does not work as a method of traffic control. It is used to shore up gaps and failures in design.

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