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submitted 1 month ago by SteveKLord@slrpnk.net to c/climate@slrpnk.net

Climate change has been a pressing global issue for decades, often characterized by dire predictions and bleak future scenarios. Many people feel overwhelmed by the magnitude of the problem and uncertain about the effectiveness of efforts to combat it. This sense of inevitability often sparks a debate about whether the focus should shift from prevention to adaptation.

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[-] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

What do you gain from arguing against optimism? This is a long process and it will improve. You can't look at things now in the United States and accurately extrapolate into the future. China and Europe are stepping in the right direction.

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

Because if we are too optimistic and prepare for the wrong future, hundreds of millions of people will die that didn't need to.

Climate adaptation is necessary to prevent people 50 years from now from resorting to fossil fuels, war, or ecosystem destruction to try to avoid starvation.

I'm optimistic about our ability to affect change. The difference between 2.5K warming and 4.5K warming is hard to comprehend, and we still have that to play for. How soon will New Orleans or Miami or Amsterdam be surrendered to the sea? What refugee infrastructure awaits their inhabitants? How much has the world economy prepared for the loss of these cities and the surrounding regions? It depends on us. There is so much we can still do that matters.

[-] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

Being optimistic is not the same as being completely delusional. Optimism by itself will not lull everyone into compliancy. Only the feeble-minded believe that their belief is sufficient for success, but they'll get farther than someone who doesn't believe success is possible. Too much pessismism will cause many to not even try.

Why'd you come back to this conversation after 2 months?

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