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this post was submitted on 23 May 2025
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This is actually a real socialist or even communist policy. The State controlling the businesses.
How in god's name is this promoting worker ownership of Apple's phone production processes?
Last time I looked, the Soviet, Chinese and North Korean people didn't own shit.
You just named 3 locations that aren’t socialist and of the three, one that no longer exists. Nice job.
Name just one where workers actually control something for fun.
Look up what a co-op is. You seem to have substantial misunderstanding that socialism is a replacement for democracy; it’s a replacement for capitalism.
A coop isn't a country Peter Pan.
Vietnam… but why the hell do you need some rando on Lemmy to educate you?
Name one country that was either socialist or communist in the past that the USA didn’t proactively fuck with to try to harm at the time?
What does it have to do with the fact you cannot identify a single socialist country where the workers are actually the owners of the production means?
You are living in a imaginary world.
I told you… Vietnam.
Read.
Then answer my question since I passed your stupid shit test.
It is authoritarian. Communist system devolve to authoritarianism because it is a natural progression (easy to do). Socialists can, but a good democratic political structure makes it harder.
Apparently capitalist systems devolve into authoritarianism; as evidenced by living in 2025.
Yes, of course. Capitalism is an economic framework. A good political framework is needed, just like i said for socialism. This is a failure of the U.S. political implementation not of capitalism as a system of commerce. I would never say capitalism is the answer to all social ills. Your statement feels like a way to say I am wrong, so if I misunderstood, sorry.
... Or as shown by the west for the past 150+ years
Are most people in "the west" worse off today than they were 150 years ago? Are there fewer well functioning democracies than there were then? Has no minority group seen any improvement in their freedom? Has there been no improvement in how people interact with each other? No improvement in poverty?