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this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2023
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There's no good, non reactionary reason to be seeking out arguments with vegans.
this is pigeonholing
Yes, good, we're all very impressed that you know that word. They literally are pigeonholing you... and what's your point?
they're not engaging with what I'm saying.
lol what are you saying? That you enjoy arguing with vegans?
Please don't feed obvious trolls
yes.
uhh...so how would you have preferred to have been engaged with?
they could have actually said something on the topic instead of trying to cast me as some kind of malicious actor. or they could have just moved along instead of attacking me personally.
You proudly admitted to being some kind of malicious actor
arguing with people isn't malicious.
What you're saying doesn't deserve engagement, you deserve nothing but mockery and vitriol
this is just posturing and rhetoric. i don't think it's appropriate for this community.
is this an appeal to ridicule?
You are pigeonholing my utterances as logical fallacies.
You are committing fallacy fallacy.
🤓 woah was that a fallacy? im very cool, shouting “fallacy” whenever im in an argument
i just think it's an enjoyable intellectual exercise.
If this is what exercising your intellect looks like I guess you need it.
your insults don't undermine anything i've said. you're only telling on yourself.
shut up. ur being an obnoxious lib. calling you out on this isnt sectarianism
You should try remembering the animal, too.
it's a hobby.
A reactionary hobby.
so the guy who's hobby is "ethical philosophy" gets no judgement, but when i find a topic that touches on ethics, ecology, economics, anthropology, biology, nutrition, and politics, i'm a reactionary if i use it as a hub to reach all those other discussions.
are you afraid i might actually know what i'm talking about?
"Are you afraid of my debate prowess?"
You don't get to act so smug and assured when you're going to bat for the dominant ideology.
No, you're a reactionary because vegans are right and you're starting right off with the slimy "debate" techniques. It's very clear to me that your only goal is to "look right" in front of everyone, rather than actually engage.
this thread is about what i enjoy. you're derailing.
no, it's to have fun.
not only am i not slimy, this sentence belies an inability to engage with the material, attacking form rather than substance.
Thanks for the dozen replies. I never expressed any intention to engage with you about veganism only to point out the reactionary tendencies you're displaying.
Yes I'm ad homing you right now. That's the purpose of my interaction and you're actually the one derailing, from my perspective.
find a thread that's not about people enjoying hobbies
Find a hobby that isn't reactionary.
i don't have reactionary hobbies.
I'm linking this thread next time someone tells me vegans are insufferable.
me too
"I enjoy going on the internet and picking fights with vegans, but it's the vegans who are insufferable"
please fuck off back to reddit
i don't tell you what to do.
great, I'm telling you what to do. Fuck off back to reddit
that or post hog liberal
baby, i'm an anarchist.
In a "no veggies at dinner, no naptimes" way?
coulda fooled me, all the anarchists I know are vegan
Go tell the mods I Ad Homed you. I will cherish that ban.
you haven't explained what you tihnk i've done that's reactionary. this is just libel.
how do you think i'm going to bat for any ideology at all? it's just an intellectual exercise.
Hey, that's me! There's actually a "debate a vegan" muni on lemmy, if you didn't know. I almost subbed. I'm a three-time former vegan. Sounds more impressive when you say it like that, doesn't it?
No but I get you. Arguing is fun as long as the stakes aren't too high (pun intended).
The thing is that on leftist forums, the stakes for a veganism debate are pretty high cause it easily causes a 50-50ish flameout.
Mods would appreciate if people like OP didn't intentionally troll to stir that sort of thing up (if the discussion takes place organically and respectfully, then whatever).
Mods would also appreciate if people didn't feed obvious trolls who are just starting things up, like you pointed out, there are specific places to post about that sort of topic.
you don't know me.
more pigeonholing