687
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

No, Darwin didn't, in fact he rightfully rejected so called "social Darwinism" because it's nothing but eugenicist bunk.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think the person you replied to was talking about social darwinism

From your article....

The core idea of Social Darwinism is that the wealthy and powerful enjoy the privileges they do because they are more fit in terms of the traits favored by natural selection. The poor and powerless have less fit traits and therefore it is best to let them perish ...

This reprehensible (and bullshit) ideology is distinct from the idea of a person making an unsafe decision like golfing on a mountain in a thunderstorm that directly causes them to die.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the wealthy and powerful enjoy the privileges they do because they are more fit in terms of the traits favored by natural selection

That's literally ableism (and classism) and eugenics.

This reprehensible (and bullshit) ideology is distinct from the idea of a person making an unsafe decision like golfing on a mountain in a thunderstorm that directly causes them to die.

They are not distinct in any way shape or form, that's just a rephrasing of that first quote of yours, and another way to say it (that most people use today) is "st.pid people shouldn't breed" (or, because I predict you being a pedantic ass - "haha that st.pid person died without reproducing, lets give them an award!!1"), demonstrating exactly how inseparably intertwined eugenics (which is literally, and of course, incorrectly, but still, absolutely based on Darwin's theory) and ableism are in the bullshit premise of the so called "Darwin awards", which I am well aware the person I replied to was referencing, and which don't provide you with the excuse or justification you thought they would (to give yourself permission to continue supporting them?), and you trying to ablesplain this shit to me just goes to show how little you actually understand of the subject.

And if you genuinely believe any of that "justification" you wrote, you yourself are an ableist eugenicist, and if you don't like hearing that, stop acting like one, and you won't get called it again.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

I appreciate the explanation. I apologize. I will take this to heart.

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

that's the problem with Great Ideas, eventually carnival hucksters and conmen are selling it out of bottles in the parking lot

this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2023
687 points (98.0% liked)

Confidently Incorrect

3992 readers
1 users here now

When people are way too smug about their wrong answer.

Posting guidelines.

All posts in this community have come from elsewhere, it is not original content, the poster in this community is not OP. The person who posts in this community isn’t necessarily endorsing whatever the post is talking about and they are not looking to argue with you about the content in the post.

You are welcome to discuss and debate any topic but arguments are not welcome here. I consider debate/discussions to be civil; people with different opinions participating in respectful conversations. It becomes an argument as soon as someone becomes aggressive, nasty, insulting or just plain unpleasant. Report argumentative comments, then ignore them.

There is currently no rule about how recent a post needs to be because the community is about the comeback part, not the topic.

Rules:

• Be civil and remember the human.

• No trolling, insults or name calling. Swearing in general is fine, but not to insult someone.

• No bigotry of any kind, including homophobia, transphobia, sexism and racism.

• You are welcome to discuss and debate any topic but arguments are not welcome here. I consider debate/discussions to be civil; people with different opinions participating in respectful conversations. It becomes an argument as soon as someone becomes aggressive, nasty, insulting or just plain unpleasant. Report argumentative comments, then ignore them.

• Try not to get too political. A lot of these posts will involve politics, but this isn’t the place for political arguments.

• Participate in good faith - don’t be aggressive and don’t argue for arguements sake.

• Mark NSFW posts if they contain nudity.

• Satire is allowed but please start the post title with [satire] so other users can filter it out if they’d like.

Please report comments that break site or community rules to the mods. If you break the rules you’ll receive one warning before being banned from this community.

This community follows the rules of the lemmy.world instance and the lemmy.org code of conduct. I’ve summarised them here:

  1. Be civil, remember the human.
  2. No insulting or harassing other members. That includes name calling.
  3. Respect differences of opinion. Civil discussion/debate is fine, arguing is not. Criticise ideas, not people.
  4. Keep unrequested/unstructured critique to a minimum.
  5. Remember we have all chosen to be here voluntarily. Respect the spent time and effort people have spent creating posts in order to share something they find amusing with you.
  6. Swearing in general is fine, swearing to insult another commenter isn’t.
  7. No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia or any other type of bigotry.
  8. No incitement of violence or promotion of violent ideologies.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS