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Elon Musk issued a curt rebuke of ketamine abuse allegations after a viral clip of his erratic behavior at a dinner recirculated online.

The clip—taken in March during a visit to Donald Trump’s Bedminster golf club in New Jersey—shows Musk balancing spoons at a dinner table while one of his baby mamas, Shivon Zilis, watches in silent concern.

At the time, X user and “retired army medic” Molly Ploofkins tweeted the clip with the caption, “Musk playing with his silverware while tripping on ketamine at Bedminster.”

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[-] philpo@feddit.org 284 points 4 weeks ago

Tbh, his Ketamine use makes me very very happy. He should do it more often.

Why? Ketamine abuse leads to severe damage of the urinary tract system. According to various sources this is already happening - and the damage is irreversible. Patients suffering from them are unable to pee - while having a massive urge to do so (imagine a decade long UTI, with your bladder really filled to the brim but you can't pee physically). And in the end it fucks their kidneys up due to the urine backing up into it. (And no, he can't get a transplant then. As the ureter is the problem and damaged beyond repair there isn't that much that can't be done then)

Furthermore the combination of drugs he admits he takes is a prime setup for a ketamine induced persistent psychosis. Elmo is already showing massive signs of intermittent or persistent psychosis, but things can get worse - far worse for him. Because the combination he takes can sometimes lead to a chronic persistent psychosis with auditory or visual hallucinations, delirium and ongoing psychosis symptoms. In other words: He would get so batshit crazy that a normal person would either be admitted in time and for a long time or kill themselves. In his case it's more likely that his staff would make sure he doesn't kill himself and lock him away. (Kill as in "running over a highway butt naked because the Zombie cows hunt them" or "trying to stop a train by a naruto move")

When I still worked in a psychiatric hospital we gad a similar guy - actually not unintelligent,but fried his brain with a similar mixture. In the end result he needed massive loads of drugs so he wouldn't be in a constant state of panic (mostly because every shadow was a giant spider trying to kill him) but basically made him a zombie. And,as he did a few awful things in this state of terror(setting fire to the psychiatric hospital twice, push a old lady in front of a bus -she was not hurt as the bus was imaginary,too-, stabbing a kindergarten teacher in front of her class) he was with us for years in a locked/high security ward. Aftee that he left us towards a similar ward in a permanent nursing facility.

There is a good chance he won't have a nice retirement life. Which is well deserved.

[-] Ersatz86@lemmy.world 82 points 4 weeks ago

Top quality post. Thank you for this shot of optimistic perspective.

Should crosspost to upliftingnews.

[-] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 4 weeks ago

That is not what that sub is for. This is squarely face eating leopards territory and I'm here for it.

[-] philpo@feddit.org 4 points 4 weeks ago

Well. Maybe the Meme Posterboy...will get mad because he thinks leopards will eat his face? Let me dream.

In that case I might die from laughing so long and loud,that I first piss myself and then have a stroke from hypoxia.

[-] philpo@feddit.org 5 points 4 weeks ago
[-] Ersatz86@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

Appears I’m not the only one.

You’ve been bestof’d

https://lemmy.world/post/30642907

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 66 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

You're very optimistic.

he did a few awful things in this state of terror(setting fire to the psychiatric hospital twice, push a old lady in front of a bus -she was not hurt as the bus was imaginary,too-, stabbing a kindergarten teacher in front of her class)

Scale this up for the richest man on earth and I dread what can happen.

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 39 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Yeah my main worry is that people are so unbelievably obsequious towards billionaires and reich-wing "leaders" that even an obviously psychotic one might not get them to pause and think about what the hell they're doing

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 weeks ago

You mean like the current one?

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 weeks ago

Well there's obviously psychotic, and then there's obviously psychotic

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[-] philpo@feddit.org 19 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah,can happen. Or he does something so self harming (like trying to open the door of his jet midflight) that they "hide him". Most of these cases tend to be so uncoordinated,that even being superrich won't help much.

We will see. I hope you are not right - but your concern is absolutely valid.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah I could see the jet door opening while he’s screaming ‘ITS ALL JUST A SIMULATION’

and maybe it is but at least the rest of us can live more in peace within the simulation after that.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago

You're watching it.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 63 points 4 weeks ago
[-] philpo@feddit.org 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

A bit of added hope: Ketamine directly caused hypertension. Not for long,but for a good amount. I literally shot a patient from 130/80 to 220/120 once.

That is not very good for the vessels in his heart and brain.

[-] cybervseas@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

Sounds like hypertension, not hypotension.

[-] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 weeks ago

It causes hypotension but in the past, so it decreases your BP until you take it.

[-] philpo@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah,you are right...either my autocorrect fucked it up or my brain...thx

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago

So what I'm hearing is someone needs to up his dosage so the problem solves itself quicker.

[-] normanwall@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

I suspect it's been going on for years and is why he had them illegally install a bathroom next to where he slept, so he wouldn't keep waking security going to pee so frequently

[-] philpo@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

What was the illegal part about the bathroom? i did miss that

[-] normanwall@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-wanted-bathroom-at-twitter-to-avoid-waking-bodyguards-2023-5?op=1

The suit says Killian told Davis that he would start getting the permits for Musk's restroom, but the suit paraphrases him responding: "We don't do that; we don't have to follow those rules."

According to the suit, he instead suggested Killian hire an unlicensed plumber to build the toilet since others wouldn't want to jeopardize their license by working on a project without a permit.

[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

An illegal bathroom for an illegal immigrant.

[-] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think they meant allegedly.

[-] zaphodb2002@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago

No it was against code and they used unlicensed workers. Illegal bathroom.

[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

The dude who wears an "occupy mars" shirt is too sheltered and spoiled to use a piss pot. Has to have a fully plumbed toilet lol!

[-] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 weeks ago

As a substance user, I'm glad. You get what you put in. Good in? Good out. Bad in? Bad out.

Substances are the ultimate representation of karma--and the muskrat craves, and craves, and craves. Let his soul be ravaged relentlessly by hundreds of thousands of talons.

[-] BuckRowdy@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago

Maybe he'll OD and this problem will finally go away. He's maybe the worst person who has ever lived.

[-] philpo@feddit.org 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Oh,I personally know a few even worse people - but I worked in a high security forensic mental health unit for a while. And let's not start about some people living in the mid of the last century. Ishii, Beria, a whole lot of Nazis, there are plenty to choose from.

Anyway: The bad news is: It is really really really hard to overdose on Ketamine. Unlike Fentanyl or Heroine, it does not stop the breathing of the patient unless administered in really high doses really fast

As he is likely getting his stuff from a pharmacy and not a shady dealer the chances for that are rather slim.

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 weeks ago

It's almost unheard of to OD in keta

[-] philpo@feddit.org 8 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, especially with pharmacy grade stuff.

I frequently use it prehospitaly for analgesia and anaesthesia and Ketamine unlike other drugs as real bad effects being underdosed - so I tend to use rather large doses And yet i. 25 years I have to manage to "overdose" someone that bad that they actually stop breathing without a second or third drug (Midazolam and Rocuronium for that matter).

[-] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 9 points 4 weeks ago

Elmo is going to get to know Mr. Foley.

[-] philpo@feddit.org 5 points 4 weeks ago

And a Foley into an inflamed urethra past an inflamed prostata into an inflamed bladder....is as much fun as it sounds.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

What do you mean he couldn't get a transplant? He'll buy homes in every state to jump the list like Steve Jobs did after ignoring medical advice.

[-] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 23 points 3 weeks ago

I think he means that the ureter itself cannot be transplanted, so the root cause is not solvable. A kidney transplant would be like putting in a new lightbulb in a defective lamp.

[-] philpo@feddit.org 22 points 3 weeks ago

He can surely buy a transplant - he will surely find a nice African or Central Asian fellow who will donate him one out of generosity and then the same fellow will find a bit of money on the street. Or a less nice Chinese citizen with reduced freedom to live.

But that doesn't change the fact that transplants need tissue to connect to. You usually connect a kidney transplant directly to the bladder,but in some cases you can use a bit of a ureter. But: For that to work you need uninflammed, structurally sound tissue.

Which often not present in these cases it seems. So...he can get a transplant organ but it won't work surgically. In theory you can also connect the new ureter to the rectum - but that,combined with immunosuppressive medication is a no-go as well.

So... It's likely he wouldn't be able to get a surgically sound and midterm successful transplant. Just like Jobs couldn't be saved back then.

[-] railcar@midwest.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

I doubt he'd accept organs of a different race.

[-] philpo@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

Good point. But I think he still will find either a techbro or a poor white fellow from the Caucasus or something for it.

Or asks Putin for one ...

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[-] okmko@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

If you don't mind sharing, what is the exact combination of drugs that leads to psychosis like you described, besides ketamine ofc?

[-] philpo@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago

There is some evidence that ketamine combined with hallucination inducing agents like Shrooms can favour psychosis. Additionally we know that inhibition reducing agents like MDMA combined with other drugs also increase the risk for psychosis.

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[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I've always said he's the modern day Howard Hughes, and he's meeting a similar fate it would appear.

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