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Russian Soldiers Say They Are Viewed With Disgust in Moscow. (www.kyivpost.com)

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According to two Russian soldiers interviewed by a pro-invasion blogger, if you wear a Russian military uniform on the metro in Moscow people distance themselves and give you dirty looks.

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[-] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I really don't like "it's part of the human condition", "it is human's nature" and other BS. I recommend you to go out and watch how kids play. Suddenly you will see opposite of fairy tale told by militant pensioners.

[-] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

yeah, so anyone whose ever watched a couple toddlers playing together knows they have to be taught to share. When they're learning, they're absolutely violent little monsters. if you google all the advice given for how to deal with aggressive toddlers in day care... you'll see that your little angels... really aren't.

[-] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I said about kids that play outside, most kids who play outside aren't toddlers, but you decided to mention them. Well, counterclaim: toddlers chew everything just because, toddlers smash everything just because and toddlers yell all the time just because. It is not their intention to hurt another toddler.

If this is how you think, it tells a lot about your ethics.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm pointing at toddlers because they haven't mastered the self control necessary to conceal and manage their aggression. In that regard, toddlers are the most honest appraisal of our instinctual inclination. Being not-aggressive is a learned behavior. the concept of "playing nice" is a learned behavior... children have to be taught how to play nice. they have to be taught what is fair, and to regulate their impulses. but those impulses remain there, and sometimes come back out as adults. Which... is kinda why there's a shit load of violence in the world. and always has been.

[-] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

toddlers are the most honest appraisal of our instinctual inclination

So it is their instinct is to lick electronics and destroy it? Chew things and destroy? Smash things and destroy? Well, ok, licking, chewing and smashing kinda is their instinct, but not smashing. Since you mentioned learning, all of this is learning. Basically when they are presented with new thing, their instinct is to learn it. "How it feels? Is it warm? Does it taste good? Can I eat it? What's inside?". Abstract agression is a mean to get attention, that also learned. "Wanted to eat, but thing that was held is not eadible, but after banging it I was fed? Do it again". Same about directed agression towards peers and mentioned by you learning to share: "after moving arm towards that thingy I was awarded with toy? Do it again".

they have to be taught what is fair

Yes and they also kids(that are "old" enough to talk) have much better sense of fairness than most adults do. Watch how THEY(kids who can communicate) play.

but those impulses remain there, and sometimes come back out as adults

Yes. In yong age it's called being silly, when they get older it's called learning, later called studying and when they are adults they call it doing scientific research.

When adults are violent, they are not acting as kids. It is kids when violent are acting as adults.

and always has been.

What I will say you can use as argument too, but it hasn't. Just century ago world was much, MUCH more violent.

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