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[-] NightAuthor@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are physicist, respected ones, that believe the universe is deterministic. That we don’t have free will.

And psychologists that believe that feeling of consciousness is a result of the brain developing a self-supervising function for higher order thinking.

Essentially free will is just an illusion.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

There are physicist, respected ones, that believe the universe is deterministic.

Quantum mechanics involves true randomness, so it is already proven that the universe is not deterministic.

That doesn't mean we have free will, though. Random actions are no more free than predetermined ones.

[-] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I think the argument they make is that quantum randomness doesn't have any way of influencing our choices, the scales are too different. I disagree, I think quantum randomness is free will, and there's some sort of quantum amplifier, for lack of a better word, that bridges the gap between particle interactions and consciousness. But since there is no way to prove or disprove such a thing, since it is by definition indistinguishable from chance, it's basically naval gazing...

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