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The rise of doomers, preppers, and antinatalists on the Left reveals something deeper than the hollow posture of rebellion: a collapse of belief in tomorrow. A Left that chants “No future” isn’t just demoralized — it’s unserious, misanthropic, and bound to lose.

Tldr: How do you inspire people to work for a better tomorrow if you don't believe tomorrow can be better? Trump and the American right have a vision of a future America that they claim will be great and glorious. The American left - and the global left - have lost sight of the future entirely. Instead of promising a bright future, they merely seek to endure the crises of the present - and some on the left have given up even that.

The article speaks to the desperate need for hope - for a clear, compelling, leftist vision of the future to serve as a guiding light for left-wing activists and politicians.

And hey, what political slash environmental slash aesthetic movement focused on a hopeful future just got its instance back up?

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[-] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

Right, but it's still 'it's going to get worse before it gets better' and if you're okay and the community you care about is okay, then you may not care if the ship is on a collision course and will sink even though there's a lot of people that don't have the means to get off.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Why would anyone prep if they didn't care the ship is on a collision course? It seems like they care a lot! That's why they prep!

The issue you're seeing seems to apply to everyone who isn't prepping, so it doesn't really seem like this is a problem that's caused by prepping. Normal people think everything is going to be fine and don't worry that the ship is on a collision course.

Also, you're thinking of community as some kind of exclusive thing, like a walled private community or something. It can't be that way if the goal is to survive. Normal people don't get to pick who is part of their community, it just sort of happens based on where we live and work and such. Building community means bringing in the people who don't have the means, not excluding them because they can't afford the entrance fee to the bunker or life raft. We don't have the luxury of being so selective.

[-] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 days ago

Grab the steering wheel? That's what the article was getting at. People who are prepping have already written society off. Attempts to repair and rectify are not made in earnest, instead smaller scale alternatives are sought with the naive idea that the facists will just ignore you.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Communal prepping is about building a new society, not abandoning it.

This society has been rotting and has had multiple holes put in it over the decades. Grab the steering wheel? The engines are already choking with water, people are drowning on the lower decks right now. This is a sinking ship, not one on a collision course. Even if we got rid of the morons steering the ship into the rocks and tearing holes in the hull, it wouldn't change the deeper structural problems that the ship has had since it was built.

Community doesn't have to be small, either. Communities can federate, after all. By your logic, why didn't you stay on Reddit and try to repair the ship before it sunk instead of escaping onto this life raft?

And who said anything about naively ignoring the fascists? Why do you think I said people should learn to shoot guns?

[-] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

I'm sorry I got caught up arguing a very specific point that you just made. You're already in the raft and I'm trying to fix the ship. Thanks for your help.

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