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[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The precedent that will set and the implications... No... We should not do this.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The precedent that will set and the implications

and what precedent is there for dealing with the executive of your country's entire space launch infrastructure when they become dependent on horse drugs?

No really, what's the precedent here, I want to know. Because if we set a precedent by ignoring it until the problem is impossible to ignore, that's gonna be a far more expensive fix.

So yeah, yeah we should consider this very strongly.

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

If the government actually nationalized SpaceX, the precedent would be insane. You’d be telling every private company working in defense, infrastructure, or tech that if they become too essential, the government might just take it. Doesn’t matter how much risk or capital they fronted.

SpaceX isn’t just launching rockets for fun—it’s practically a branch of the U.S. space program at this point. GPS, Starlink for military comms, launching classified payloads, putting astronauts in orbit. If we nationalize that over a political pissing match between Trump and Musk, we’re basically saying innovation is conditional on obedience.

And let’s be honest—once you do this to SpaceX, you open the door to doing it to AWS, Tesla’s energy grid systems, Google’s AI infrastructure. Any private company that gets too important suddenly becomes “too critical to stay private.” That’s a fast track to killing private innovation in sectors where we need it most.

If Trump’s threatening funding, and Musk is threatening to walk, and the public’s response is “just take the company,” then we’ve officially politicized the tech-industrial base. That’s not governance, that’s dysfunction.

Nationalizing SpaceX would be a Cold War move in a modern economy. It might feel good in the moment, but long-term, it's a terrible idea.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

how can you be so casually apathetic about saddling our soldiers sailors airmen and spaceforce with the products of a horse drug addled asshole?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/us/elon-musk-drugs-children-trump.html

What kind of prick tells these people VOLUNTEERING TO DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY "hey man, the ketamine kid is the only way!" - how are you comfortable or confident in the products produced when he's tripping balls in the oval office?

meh. this is a pointless argument, I'm never going to convince these elon fanboys their hero is a prick

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'm sorry were you talking to me? Because nothing in your response had anything to do with what I actually said.

I never claimed to like Elon. I don’t. I never expressed support for this administration’s policies. I don’t.

My argument is about the moral, ethical, and historically dangerous precedent of nationalizing a private company.

That drug-addled sycophant stood before the most powerful political body on Earth wearing a baseball cap and a T-shirt while the Vice President of the United States told President Zelensky to put on a suit.

Unbelievable.

Where the hell do you get off making wild, baseless assumptions about things you barely understand? What exactly prevents you from engaging in civil discourse like an adult, instead of spouting off like you did in that comment?

Fine if we’re slinging assumptions now, here’s mine: You strike me as a fedora-wearing, vape-huffing, woman-hating neckbeard. Am I wrong? Don’t care. That’s the image your words paint.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I never claimed to like Elon. I don’t. I never expressed support for this administration’s policies. I don’t.

you just defend his right to run spaceX on specialK.

mmkay bud.

[-] gian@lemmy.grys.it 2 points 1 month ago

you just defend his right to run spacex on specialK.

Is not the US "the land of the free" ?
Obviously he has the right to run SpaceX, like you have the right to try to build another one.

But obviously you seems to not understand what are the implication of setting this kind of precedent and all the implications that will arise. But that's ok, after all the only important thing is to hate Musk.

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I don't give two flying fucks who runs space x. Once again. I'm not defending Elon in anyway.

I am expressing my concern about the United States government nationalizing a private company. You're still making bassless assumptions. Pull your head out of your own ass and actually think about what I'm saying before spouting off at the mouth.

[-] pneumatron@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Health insurance, ISP, Oil Cos, and utilities should also be nationalized. The US is a weird place where everything is a business. A shithole capitalist hellscape

[-] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Tankies live in alternate reality where they think that nationalization is extremely common and is a magical solution to all of societies problems... even though this view is entirely delusional.

For example, only 3 countries have nationalized the entire ISP industry, and those are Cuba, Turkmenistan, and North Korea. All three of which are horrid tyrannical dictatorships with horrible internet. We should NOT be like them. Even when it comes to health insurance, except for 3 countries I just mentioned, every single country allows private health insurance, even if their system is public. Clearly nationalization is not what you think it is.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Tankies

boy howdy you've got the entire strawman army mustered in this thread.

[-] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

It seems like you don't know what that term means

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Sure thing sport. I must be a tankie lol. You toolbag

[-] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

A strawman is when somebody mischaracterize an argument, calling someone a tankie is not that.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

sure thing bud. I'm not going to waste my afternoon going through your shitstream to point out how you're wrong, I simply have better things to do with my life. in fact, gonna block you now, QOL plus

[-] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Please do. I would very much not see a clown on my feed who accuses others of things they don't even understand.

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