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submitted 2 days ago by vermaterc@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.ml

Manufacturers will be required to offer spare parts and publish security updates for an extended period. Energy labels will show a repairability index as well as energy efficiency.

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[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

EU actual laws vs headlines about non excisting laws. Refering to other threads.

Great for consumers once again.

[-] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It really sounds great, but I've also read that the law contains zero directions/rules on prices for the replacement parts. So you might be able to get a replacement battery for your 200€ phone, but having to pay 200€ for it.

I man I hope not, and maybe not every company will go out of their way to follow the most malicious interpretation of the law they can (competitors might not, it's still a somewhat competitive market).

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

you might be able to get a replacement battery for your 200€ phone, but having to pay 200€ for it.

On the assumption that consumers are somehow rational and have some memory, that "trick" only work once.

Next time a consumer get stuck with a practically irreplaceable battery because it's too expensive from a company, they will look at other companies selling equivalent products, AND how much they are charging for batteries. I also imagine a business of spare parts because just having to give the right data, e.g. specifications like cell, module, pack, C-rate, E-rate, SOC, DOD, voltage, capacity, energy, cycle life, but also connectors and just size, will probably open up dedicated spare part vendors.

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Next time a consumer get stuck with a practically irreplaceable battery because it’s too expensive from a company, they will look at other companies selling equivalent products, AND how much they are charging for batteries.

No. Just look at the current phone market. The average consumer doesn't care enough about repairs down the road, or at least it doesn't affect their purchasing decisions, they are mostly driven by convenience and familiarity. If what you're saying was true, everyone would be buying fairphones.

I also imagine a business of spare parts because just having to give the right data, e.g. specifications like cell, module, pack, C-rate, E-rate, SOC, DOD, voltage, capacity, energy, cycle life, but also connectors and just size, will probably open up dedicated spare part vendors.

Those specs are already widely available for many phones and in fact you can buy aftermarket 3rd-party batteries for most of them. The problem is that battery replacements are painful, require specialized equipment (at least a hotplate, suction cup, spudger for most phones) and skills (not breaking the screen/glass back, unglueing the battery without exploding it, then carefully glueing everything back together etc). This is what the law should be addressing first; if it were easy to replace batteries (like a 1-minute job instead of 30-minute job), you would see a lot more DYI replacements and probably way longer lasting phones on average.

[-] gammarays@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That may be overestimating how much most customers look up anything about a phone before buying it and how much they care throwing their phone away every 3 years

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well this next example isn't about phones but e-bikes. Unfortunately unwise me bought a fancy designer bike made by a national startup (CowBoy, to name and shame them) and I'm now stuck with a fancy metal frame on wheels because the belt is not in stock. Ordered in February, supposed to arrive 60 days later, I'm still waiting, not even an email received, nothing in now late June.

So... yes my next e-bike will be very VERY boring, in the sense of relying on built that have easy to source replacement part.

Yes, it did take few a first relatively large mistake (even though I did use that bike daily for years already) but that's what I meant by "only work once". You try, make painful mistake, don't repeat.

this post was submitted on 18 Jun 2025
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