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I found this thought funny. A few years ago everyone was all learn to code so you don't lose your job! Now there wont be any programming jobs in 10 years. But we will need a lot of manual labor still.

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[-] Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

My dad is a master mason and can't find anyone at all who wants to do the job. It's hard, hard work. Unfortunately, it seems like he's going to have to retire with no apprentices to carry on all his incredible knowledge.

[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[-] Lucelu2@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

A lot of union halls have expanded their apprentice programs -- they just need qualified people to apply and unfortunately, many do not choose to stay preferring an air conditioned office or remote work from home or even the big box store vs the dirty, hot construction site+ classes (our IBEW actually has apprentices working 4 days and school 1 day, when my husband apprenticed, he went to school to nights a week after work). It is hard work, lifting heavy things, random drug testing, working off ladders, carrying a lot of tools and requires a good working knowledge of trigonometry (although many use apps on their phones now-- didn't exist when he entered it). They are a lot more nicer to apprentices these days as well. It is interesting that we are seeing more middle aged people entering the apprentice programs now, second careers.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Can he afford to?

Current trades are underpaid for what is expected from them.

[-] teft@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Then he needs to charge more if he can't afford to pay his employees more.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

Exactly. There is no such thing as a labor shortage, only activities that people don't think are worth the cost.

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

He can only charge what the market will bear. Since he has skills he can do the work fast and make a good living. However he cannot afford to invest in someone new who can't work as fast and thus could not make a good living. If a new guy would work for free for a couple years the new guy would be good and could get a good income - but I don't blame new people for not wanting to work for free and it is likely illegal anyway. Also while there is a good income possible, I wouldn't call it great, and so I'm not sure if it is worth getting into vs other options.

So yeah, he needs to charge more, but he can't because people will just do without masons if they charge more.

[-] Lucelu2@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Apprentices are paid and get full benefits. They typically get raises about every 6 months or every year depending on the program.

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