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Just started a community for those who wish to move away from Lemmy (piefed.social)
submitted 2 weeks ago by TheSaltyPenguin@piefed.social to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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Recently joined and started a community for people who want to move away from Lemmy and want to see Lemmy loosen its stranglehold on the threadiverse, if that seems like something interesting to you consider checking out !cancel_lemmy@piefed.social

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[-] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Features

Nice things about PieFed:

  • Written in a common programming language that many developers understand and which has a bright future ahead of it. Python, of course! This will enable more contributions from a wider range of people than if it was made with Erlang, Ruby, Rust or PHP, for example.
  • Constructed in a simple and straightforward manner that new contributors can come to grips with quickly. No fancy algorithms, special design patterns, fragile build process, or front-end framework. Just Flask with sprinklings of vanilla JS and htmx.
  • Keep third party dependencies to an absolute minimum, to make server administration easier. Python + database (PostgreSQL) and you’re good to go! Redis optional.
  • Consume few resources, to make it cheap to run. Many examples of federated software are bloated Rube Goldberg machines that require hefty servers and serious server administration skills, making money a constant problem. PieFed instances will be small and nimble.
  • Emphasise trust, safety and happiness, drawing inspiration from the Mastodon Covenant.
  • Built to last using tried and true technology that will still work decades from now.

Differences between Lemmy and PieFed

  • Comments with -10 score are collapsed by default.
  • Communities are organized into topics. See https://piefed.social/topics.
  • Image-heavy communities can have a tiled/masonry view, like https://piefed.social/c/pics@lemmy.world
  • People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.
  • Hide all posts based on keyword filters.
  • Keyboard shortcuts.
  • Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation.
  • Better UI design (somewhat subjective!)
  • Improved hotness ranking algorithm (subjective)
  • Voting is private.
  • See also features for healthy communities.
  • Each community has it’s own wiki.

Mastodon Covenant & "safe spaces" are overmoderated trash. Features for healthy communities consist of Reddity moderation tactics.

Heavy handed moderation is the main reason Reddit disgusts me, so no thanks, & fuck that shit.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Don't forget that admins can literally turn the modlog off on their instance to hide mod actions from others and who did them. How can anyone think that accountability limiting features is a good thing, especially coming from Reddit.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

As much as public modlogs are required, the lack of accountability of some mods repeatedly reported for power tripping makes me question sometimes if all of this is not in vain.

!privacy@lemmy.ml is still the most popular privacy community

!world@lemmy.world is still the most popular world news community

On the other hand, there are several features that Lemmy always ignored, and that exist on Piefed

  • consolidated comment view for all crossposts
  • actual instance blocking
  • multicommunities
  • keyword filters
[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

As much as public modlogs are required, the lack of accountability of some mods repeatedly reported for power tripping makes me question sometimes if all of this is not in vain.

Maybe it seems that way since mods don't always or often yield to pressure on YPTB, but if there wasn't a modlog or if they could hide it and not announce actions publicly. We wouldn't even know. People would still complain about their bans but there would be no public evidence. No one could make a critical assessment based on the public evidence it would be the banned person's word against the mods. That's what a life without the modlog is, that's what it is on Reddit. I do not believe that real people want to go back to that. Server admins and mods maybe but not people.

On the other hand, there are several features that Lemmy always ignored, and that exist on Piefed

I believe the second, third, and possibly the fourth one are coming in later Lemmy versions.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

https://piefed.social/modlog

Enabled and working

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

That's nice that he did it but the fact that he gives the option to turn it off without forking isn't good, the reason why Lemmy's modlog is so great is because it isn't optional, and while you could modify your own Lemmy instance to hide and disable it, you'd need to break mod action federation to completely remove it. By not being optional it is more resilient. Piefed though makes it easy for corrupt or non-accountable admins to turn it off and hide who did what and when. Just like it is on Reddit.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I will bring this to the Piefed channel.

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com -1 points 2 weeks ago

People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.

Software enforced echo chambers, as if it wasn't bad enough.

Everything else looks so good about piefed, sad to see a deal breaker like that.

this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2025
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