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Mark Carney calls for a 'Zionist' Palestine (yeah, he actually did)
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Until the majority of Palestinians accept that Israel has a right to exist alongside a Palestinian state, there won't be lasting peace between the two. An incredibly poor choice of words, but the point is clear to those willing to listen.
As long as israel pretend that the whole land belong to them there is no solution
That is another part of the very, very complicated issue in the area yes. That does not negate the fact that change is required for lasting peace, and it needs to happen on all sides of the issue.
You really believe that Palestinians will keep attacking Israel if they give back the whole part of the west bank and gaza? Israel should get the hell out of Palestinians land regardless
Yes. I believe peace can prevail if the rest of the world stops fucking around.
Which is why Palestinians need to accept that Israel has a right to exist within the 1967 borders. Israel also needs to accept the fact that Palestine has a right to exist within the borders determined in 1967.
Not all the land is Palestinian land, and that is a matter of fact. Israelis, especially those indigenous to the area, have a right to exist there. Just like Palestinians have a right to exist there.
Most of the Palestinians accept Israel existence and agree with the pre 67 border it is Israel who refuse to accept it and keep building illegal settlements making a two state solution hard to accomplish , every single Israeli prime minister has oppressed Palestinians and believe the land was their either for religious or ethnic supremacy reasons.
Nothing but giving back all post 67 land to Palestinians , giving the right to return to Palestinians who was ethnically cleansing and want to go back to Israel while accepting their laws and also having an army to defend the state for any other potential aggression or a one state solution with equal rights to everybody would be accepted
You need to learn to recognize someone who agrees with you before arguing with them in the future. We know what needs to happen on the Israeli side for peace, my point is there is another side that has problems that need solving as well and that Palestinians are responsible for their side.
We do not agree. You make look like both side don't want peace. I think it is israel who don't want it because they still believe in jewish supermacy
I absolutely agree, Israel is very much doing incredibly unjust, disgusting, and unimaginable things right now but that doesn't change the situation on the other side or what they have done.
Why hasn't Hama's surrendered and returned the remaining hostages and bodies if peace is their goal?
Hamas hasn't surrendered and didn't return the hostages because Israel will continue the genocide and occupation, Satanyaho admitted it . Hamas say they will drop arms when Gaza and west bank and east Jerusalem are no longer occupied.
How about liberating Palestinians then bring both sides war criminals to justice?
You do understand that Palestinians are being oppressed by Hamas right? They have moved the goal post so many times themself it is clear they also don't want peace. Especially considering their goal is to ethnically cleanse Israel.
Which is my damn point. Both sides need to stop because innocent civilians are dying daily, and the rest of the world needs to stop fucking around and disarm both parties to intervene for real.
While Hamas is oppressing the Palestinians who oppose it's rule it is not the one who killed at least 50k of them. They the one who is currently attacking the occupation force.
Hamas can't destroy Israel even if they want to and with a Palestinians state with it's own army it could exterminate Hamas if it refuse to drop arms.
You won't stop the oppressed retaliating with the most atrocious actions if the occupation don't end first. This is basic logic. Would you have said both slaves and slaves owners need to stop violence in the same time after Nate Turner revolt where he killed some kids or you would simply has say slavery should be abolish first?
Israel murdered 57k (2.7%) Palestinians in a population of 2.1m and decimated their homes with missiles all over the country.
Sounds like a good reason to surrender.
Will them surrendering will end occupation?
Has fighting?
All other occupations ended thanks to fighting. Are you denying palestinian right to fight occupation force
In what world is this "Palestinians fighting occupation forces"?
Are you saying that Hamas is equal to Palestinians?
Israel is not an occupying force?
I am not wasting further time with you.
Because you are a zionist under cover pretending to be neutral that has no more propaganda to spew
Whatever you say bud.
What is wrong with you…
Do you have a point to make?