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Sorry let me ask that again, why do you feel the need to specifically discredit putins claims?
The analysis in it is interesting. I'm personally a socdem (as you prob already know by now) so no I don't like him because I think he's right all the time. What a weird way that'd be to read someone's analysis lmao. I've read marx too. And I laugh at Zeihans predictions on europe. But mostly, I laugh at your attempt at convincing me you read literature.
But true. Explained my thought process more above.
Doesn't matter to my point tbh. Friendships don't help deterrence, only official military alliances do. That is my point and nothing else. putin had no choice but to invade before any NATO stuff come alive, but would've invaded with or without any plans of joining.
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As I suspected I had been conversing with someone who didn't even have elementary idea of the geopolitical situation and goals of rus*ia. Except for the things putin says about it, apparently. Please educate yourself on the subject I mentioned prior, Zeihan really is a good and easily understandable source on analysis over it if you want to check it out, even if he's very memeable.
Russia is not justified in invading Ukraine. I have zero interest in entertaining that notion.
Keep licking boots.
Huh? In the rare case you are not misreading my comments due to being embarrassed, you REALLY need to educate yourself on the subject.
Russia did not need to invade Ukraine.
Ukraine is existential to rus*ia. The invasion was always going to happen, it was just a matter of when.
You'd know this if you'd knew even a little bit of geopolitics over the region. Like literally the tiniest amount of education would've saved you all these messages.
If you agree with Putin, yes.
Hold on - am I talking to Putin right now? Or just his personal aide?
Am I going to read about a Russian (that's how you spell it, not Rus*ia) social media secretary being disappeared after embarrassing themselves online?
Who I agree with is irrelevant to reality. Sadly, he never asked my opinion on the invasion. I'm just stating the facts here, facts about reality which does seem like the sticking point with you.
And I don't spell rus*ia with a capital r, they don't deserve it.
So, you do agree.
Also, it's not the capitalisation I'm disputing. And I don't believe your posturing.
I don't agree with him. But I acknowledge the existence of his reasons. Very simple concept.
You seem to think his reasons are valid. Stop dancing around that. You said he "had no choice but to invade". That means you think he was justified in invading.
He wasn't.
I also "acknowledge the existence of his reasons" just the same as I "acknowledge the existence" of the reasons a child steals candy. They wanted it. The reason exists, sure, but it doesn't make it a good or valid one.
I dont
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What? :D you literally just quoted me? :D Did I say “I think he had no choice but to invade and I agree with his reasons and the conclusions he came to” or “had no choice but to invade”.
Man, you truly are a tankie. Like a labgrown unfiltered nazi, sorry, tankie.
You literally said he had no choice but to invade. That is, from you, a statement of believed fact. Why are you trying to backpedal, here? This is what you said. You even agree that I quoted you. How can you say "he had no choice but to invade", and now imply you never claimed to agree?
If you didn't agree, you'd have said "Putin claimed he had no choice". But you didn't. You said, flat out, he had no choice.
I still don't see the problem with the statement. He really didn't, rus*ian geopolitic doctrine insists on Ukraine being existential for their country, he had no choice but to invade.
He had no choice but to invade.
Aw, poor little put upon Putin was so blocked in, he really had no choice but to brutally murder thousands of people for conquest. He had a gun against his head, don't you see!
Wtf is wrong with you? You don't think he could have just... NOT FUCKING INVADED?
Fucking Nazi.
Not sure if you have challenges in reading or are just pretending to be retarded. Since you are a commie I actually can't tell if you can't read or pretend to be retarded for the lulz.
Also bro I'm going to bed now, sleep tight tty tmr <3