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[-] ter_maxima@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago

Bold of you to assume I am American, did you not check the instance I am from ?

Yes, there are many lies about China, but don't get stuck in second opinion syndrome. China is both worse and better than you know.

The fact the government lies about China, while China is still bad behind the scenes, can both be true. During the cold war, both sides accused the other of being evil, and both were right.

Don't let anyone who puts a "communist" sticker on their own forehead fool you into supporting them.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

The fact the government lies about China, while China is still bad behind the scenes, can both be true.

This is just vague-posting unless you actually link some credible china-bad studies that aren't sourced from British or US state media.

[-] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

some credible china-bad studies that aren’t sourced from British or US state media.

University of Limpopo, South Africa, on China neocolonising Africa - https://www.jstor.org/stable/27159668. Is that credible enough for you?

If not, is there a source that you would call credible - and if it exists, what is it?

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

I can't read that as it's paywalled. Anyway here's a lot of links about this topic, several from African leaders and diplomats on the difference between Chinese trade and development in Africa and actual imperialism as practiced by western countries:

[-] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It's not paywalled. I think you didn't even bother to click "read full article" or whatever the button name is. They might ask you to register witb a free account.

If you want to use other people opinions as an argument, I'm going to ask you for what you asked for - studies. Preferably published in journals, not essays by socials celebrities like Caitlin Johnstone, nor articles in Chinese newspapers, nor Reddit. And that's because a deluge of weak sources is worthless - that's how US propaganda works and enforces itself.

Extra points if the studies are not from China or it's close Allies, just so that you have exactly the same requirements as the ones you asked for.

Can be paywalled.

Edit: I highly recommend you read https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

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