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[-] Tracaine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Communism will never, has never and can never work on a large scale.

[-] naeap@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, because authoritarian systems always fail, without exception

The only real solution is to remove authority and bring society to adult level - better the other way round though.

[-] bastion@feddit.nl 0 points 4 weeks ago

remove adults and bring all the kids to the authoritarian level. Check.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Neither can capitalism. But communism is incompatible with war.

[-] bastion@feddit.nl 0 points 4 weeks ago
[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world -2 points 4 weeks ago

Are you counting defensive wars against capitalist colonizers, fascist invasions, and uprisings against oppressive puppet regimes and tyrants?

[-] bastion@feddit.nl 1 points 4 weeks ago

Always the victim. Get back to your struggle sessions, and hope the target isn't you.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago

Are you counting defensive wars against capitalist colonizers, fascist invasions, and uprisings against oppressive puppet regimes and tyrants?

[-] kazaika@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Everyone can be a tyrant or a puppet if you think different enough

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

I like how everyone's response so far is "words have no meaning"

[-] kazaika@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Because its true, have you ever seen a war where the sides dont blame each other at the end? Any reasoning given is just hot air as long as the actions dont line up. Udssr said they had to fight the capitalists but proceeded to build the biggest bomb ever created, which is clearly a tool for mass muder and not targeted warfare (tsar bomb - 50mt)

[-] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Marxism is anti-utopian, it's based on analyzing how societies evolve over time. What is deemed "authoritarianism" is the need for the proletariat to exert its control over the bourgeoisie, rather than the reverse, yet bourgeois rule is more authoritarian.

@naeap@sopuli.xyz

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

That's fine in theory, until the party starts calling everything it sees as a potential opposition or threat to itself and any attempts to adapt to the times "burgeois".

Until you guys create a clear set of rules to permit gradual evolution, dissenting voices, protecting the rights of the individual and political opposition, while preventing things like cult of personality, nobody is getting on that ride again.

(oh wait, there is another ride like that but for the nation instead of the proletariat, it's called fascism...and everybody is getting on it...again)

[-] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, because rule by the bourgeois will always tend towards a more authoritarian level than Socialism.

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