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xkcd #3109: Dehumidifier

Title text:

It's important for devices to have internet connectivity so the manufacturer can patch remote exploits.

Transcript:

[A store salesman, Hairy, is showing Cueball a dehumidifier, with a "SALE" label on it. Several other unidentified devices, possibly other dehumidifier models, are shown in the store as well.]

Salesman: This dehumidifier model features built-in WiFi for remote updates.
Cueball: Great! That will be really useful if they discover a new kind of water.

Source: https://xkcd.com/3109/

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[-] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 1 month ago

To steel-man the argument some more, if you have variable-rate electricity, it could turn on when electricity is cheap.

[-] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This can be done with something like Zigbee. Or even simpler: you hook a non-connected device up to a "smart" power socket. No need for the device itself to talk to the outside world.

[-] Hawke@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You still have to have some device connected to the internet. This just transfers the problem from the humidifier to the outlet.

[-] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Zigbee is local and if you really wanted to you can use Home Assistant 100% offline it will be just neutered and basic.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 1 month ago

im not sure why all these people jumped from 'wifi' to 'internet' as if they were the same thing. no one should be exposing their automation devices directly to the interwebs

[-] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 1 points 1 month ago

Sadly, many wifi-enabled devices only work with some proprietary cloud-service and even if not, they're only one configuration error (or intentional backdoor) away from talking to the outside. Better have something that isn't physically able to talk to the internet no matter how badly I fuck up its configuration and my firewall.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

The solution to too many unnecessarily-connected devices is more connected devices?

[-] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The solution is not more but different connected devices so I can decide for myself what needs to be connected and by which protocol. Get the dumbest device on the market, no wifi, no internal clock, maybe not even a humidity sensor and then, if and only if I need to remote control it, for example to put it on a schedule, I can use the cheapest "smart" device on the market to connect it to an in-house machine that can turn it on and off.

this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2025
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