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[-] morkyporky@suppo.fi 22 points 3 weeks ago

I hated it and still do because for a period of years every weird, difficult to find issue on a bunch of servers was caused by systemd. It may be fine now, but I switched to Devuan and have had incredible stability. Poettering's response to security issues was also terrible and honestly the dude seems like a real piece of shit.

[-] vivendi@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago

BASED,

Try dinit too. It's probably the easiest to use alternative to systemd

[-] dukatos@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 weeks ago

Systemd on a server is disaster.

[-] Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Excuse me but wtf? How many machines do you manage?

[-] dukatos@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Right now five servers. Three with Alpine Linux and two FreeBSD servers.

[-] Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ok I see. Without any intention to sound offensive, 5 servers is not enough to really see the pro cons of either init system. People handling 50 times those numbers encounter issues where it starts to matter, and those people tend to claim that, while it ain't perfect, it is a lot better than any alternative

[-] dukatos@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

You see, I scaled down a little in recent years because that is not my primary job any more. But, I am working as an admin from 1998. so my word should have some weight, right?

[-] Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

All words from any it admin have weight, that is not what I meant.

Its just that init scripts and weird boot requirements are really crap to manage at scale and my job, like many others became a lot easier with systemd, that is why almost everyone uses it now. In my experience those that complain either never encountered these issues because they never scaled enough and like to use what they were used to, or prefer to write a script over a config file and make this a religious issue for some reason.

[-] dukatos@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

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