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[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's also, in pure abstract moral terms (which is also why, despite lots of idiots around scolding it, you'll take ancap only from my cold dead hands), that USA is not an ethnic state of some USian people. It even claims to be an international, open entity in its bloody constitution.

So I'm not sure that, speaking purely ethically and abstractly, USA even gets to limit immigration in any way (other than quotas to prevent crowds of third world peasants stomping it out ; but not too small ; maybe also other than keeping out those who can't explain how they are going to make their living there). Probably a homeless immigrant that doesn't have a job and doesn't speak English shouldn't be able to naturalize and get citizenship, but those who pass these three conditions - should and easily.

That or descendants of immigrants (which is almost all of the USA) going back to their countries of origin and freeing the territory for descendants of the native peoples.

That's, again, using ancap-like rigid morality.

But then in this particular case ancap rigid morality aligns with traditional marxist rigid morality perfectly. So basically in any consistent system of morality underpinning laws it seems that limiting immigration to such a nation is not the same as limiting guest access to your apartment.

Just in case - I live in Russia and I would with no doubt make the same rules for Russia, if it were up to me.

this post was submitted on 03 Jul 2025
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