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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Imhotep@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.world

I know, public votes, that's how Lemmy and the Fediverse work.

It bothers me a little though.

edit: this post is gaining traction, I censored the user's name as it's unimportant and better to avoid possible harassment

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[-] MudMan@fedia.io 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yeeeeah, I'm gonna say if a different social network tried to pull that move you would not be taking that line.

There's a frequent undercurrent of "it's fine because it's Fedi" that I don't subscribe to. Fedi moderation sucks ass and some of their hacks to visually replicate features from other social networks that don't replicate the functionality suck as well. You could argue that up/downvotes shouldn't exist at all, and I may agree with you, but this is a bug, not a feature.

[-] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

I have to be very clear: That's simply wrong and I have no idea how you come to the conclusion that my statement was Lemmy /Fedi specific in any way...

All other social media do have this information and just don't provide it to their end users.

My take for how I read this specific case (public communication/information platform) is: Either full anonymity or pseudonymous transparency.

For other cases I'd even argue for personal linked transparency. For others I'd be against having behavioral transparency and would prioritize privacy even higher.

"Social media" as umbrella term is btw too broad for me personally to say "they should do X"

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago

That's a weird change of perspective there. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

To be clear, yes, all social media with likes/votes has information about the likes/votes. That's all likes/votes is.

The question is whether you surface that information to users. For a system like ActivityPub there are some hard limiters to how much you can keep that info hidden or build features around withholding information from users at all because the entire thing is built on the notion that anybody can be hosting an instance.

My point is that I'm not going to treat it differently or have different expectations of it just because it works in a different way. And if anything, I'd have some additional privacy concerns for a system like than I would for a less open system.

So from there I'm not sure what your argument is. Are you saying that you disagree that Fedi has the same expectations for privacy and usability than other social networks? That they have the same expectations but get there some other way? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth here, I'm trying to understand what you're saying.

[-] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Oh I think I see the misunderstanding, thanks for your answer!

I had no specific technology or even "social media in my mind at all when writing my first post. Instead I tried to convey my personal preference on the scale "absolute transparency" to "absolute privacy" for the specific case of "seeing who votes in which direction from user about users".

I completely agree with your statement "don't treat it differently because of underlying tech decisions".

For me the answer to the privacy question depends on the specific use case (and who provides/ controls it).

And to answer your question: I only try to describe "my" wishes, not how I think fedi developers see the situation.

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