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[-] ryepunk@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago

Redditors never beating the charge of failing media literacy tests repeatedly over and over.

The Reddit post is about one superman Stan who's angry that he saw allusions towards a colonizer destroying a nation of brown people. Basically a self report, he knows it's bad in the movie and can't rationalize how superman would deal with Israel in the realm world.

The others on the thread are scolding the op for missing how the movie isn't making obvious allusions to Israel so therefore it isn't making it to anything. Except maybe Russia Ukraine? They then go on to say how it's andor all over again where everyone said that was related to Israel Palestine and obviously it was just about the French and Nazis and therefore there was no possible connection to Israel at all. These people should only be allowed to watch cartoons for toddlers which they might be able to keep up with.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

I recall a funny thing I read on twitter a while back; someone was saying their DM sprung a story on them and over time got frustrated with the players only to cancel the game because he got upset with the players' choices. He'd apparently intended on telling a fantasy version of the birth of Israel and thought the players would side with the zionists. I recall another story that this retelling got someone to share but I can't for the life of me remember what it was unfortunately.

Also ironically Superman would most likely side with Israel in the DC universe; Superman is little more than a shill for the US government and alternate retellings of the DC universe seem to indicate his leanings. During the injustice storyline Superman 'fixes' the Israel-Palestine 'conflict' by telling them that if they didn't fix their issues that he'd fix it himself as if the problem is an arbitrary one that just needs both sides to come to the table (enlightened centrism strikes again). In that same storyline he also stops a drone sent by the US military from killing five civilians (it was sent because there was one target in the area; painfully the movie ups the civilian count to 30 because the average person today is so monstrously brain broken that five civilians isn't considered unacceptable, but 30 might), which means the same crimes happening in the real world are happening in the DC universe and Superman lets it happen. Additionally at one point wonder woman finally takes the gloves off and helps refugees in (Sudan?) kill their oppressors and....okay, fantastic, now go to a country we're at war with and do the same (for heck's sake you're not even American, why should you value US military and be fine with overlooking their crimes?). In a different alternate universe story that takes place further into the future, the government tells superheroes that either they become government employees or they retire, and Superman immediately sides with the US government and enforces their will (literally cutting off green arrow's arm because he refused to bend to the government's will).

I haven't watched this movie but it's easy to expect Superman to be little more than an extension of the government's will; if Superman was real he'd be in Gaza murdering Hamas soldiers and just being very, very concerned about war crimes he sees taking place without actually realizing what the heck is going on or actually realizing he's fighting for the wrong side. I remember reading the plot of the new movie that says Superman fights for truth, justice and the HUMAN way, where originally it's truth, justice and the AMERICAN way (which like.....pick one: either truth and justice, or the American way). Superman may originally have started out as pro-worker, but he's been shifted to be little more than an enforcer of US foreign policy.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

One of the good things to come out of Frank Miller's Batman was Superman getting called out for being a puppet of the US government. In The Dark Night Returns, Batman goes as far as to build power armor to help him fight and kill Superman.

[-] wolfinthewoods@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

Written by a man who famously hates the character and used Batman to make a point of making Superman look bad. It's considered to be one of the worst written versions of Superman of all-time by fans. Superman has, in various incarnations, had some associations with the US government, but usually it's been writers shilling or when he was being explicitly written as a flag-waving patriot in the WWII era comics. The vast majority of his existence has been one that is frequently at odds with the military and US government policy. There are still some writers that will pander to the military, but those are few and far in between and always cringe levels of writing.

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