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[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

CPU-only. It's an old Xeon workstation without any GPU, since I mostly do one-off AI tasks at home and I never felt any urge to buy one (yet). Model size woul be something between 7B and 32B with that. Context length is something like 8128 tokens. I have a bit less than 30GB of RAM to waste since I'm doing other stuff on that machine as well.

And I'm picky with the models. I dislike the condescending tone of ChatGPT and newer open-weight models. I don't want it to blabber or praise me for my "genious" ideas. It should be creative, have some storywriting abilities, be uncensored and not overly agreeable. Best model I found for that is Mistral-Nemo-Instruct. And I currently run a Q4_K_M quant of it. That does about 2.5 t/s on my computer (which isn't a lot, but somewhat acceptable for what I do). Mistral-Nemo isn't the latest and greatest any more. But I really prefer it's tone of speaking and it performs well on a wide variety of tasks. And I mostly do weird things with it. Let it give me creative advice, be a dungeon master or an late 80s text adventure. Or mimick a radio moderator and feed it into TTS for a radio show. Or write a book chapter or a bad rap song. I'm less concerned with the popular AI use-cases like answer factual questions or write computer code. So I'd like to switch to a newer, more "intelligent" model. But that proves harder than I imagined.

(Occasionally I do other stuff as well, but that's a far and in-between. So I'll rent a datacenter GPU on runpod.io for a few bucks an hour. That's the main reason why I didn't buy an own GPU yet.)

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

One more thing, you don't have to get something shiny and new to speed LLMs up. Even if you have like a 4-6GB GPU collecting dust somehwere, you can still use it to partially offload MoE models to great effect.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Try any of Latitude's series. They're 'uninhibited' dungeonmaster models, but they should be smart enough (and retain enough of that personality) for some flexibility:

https://huggingface.co/LatitudeGames


Perhaps more optimally for your hardware, try this:

https://huggingface.co/Gryphe/Pantheon-Proto-RP-1.8-30B-A3B

It's trained from Qwen A3B base, not instruct. Base models usually don't have the severe ChatGPT-isms you describe, hence while I haven't personally tried this model, it seems promising. And it should be fast on your Xeon.

[-] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

The 30B-A3Bs I've tried have been suuuuuuuper repetitive. Do you have any specific settings to recommend to get them to work well?

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Random thing, I did not get a notification for this comment, I stumbled upon it. This happens all the time, and it makes me wonder how many replies I miss...

I don't run A3B specifically, but for Qwen3 32B Instruct I put something like "vary your prose; avoid repetitive vocabulary and sentence structure" in the system prompt, run at least 0.5 DRY, and maybe some dynamic sampler like mirostat if supported. Too much regular rep penalty makes it dumb, unfortunately.

But I have much better luck with base model derived models. Look up the finetunes you tried, and see if they were trained from A3B instruct or base. Qwen3 Instruct is pretty overtuned.

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Big thanks! I'm always looking for recommendations. I'll check them out. It's going to take me some time, since it's very subjective. I used to look at numbers and scores, but they just don't mean a lot. So I need to use every one for a while and see whether I like what they write. The MoE model is quite an improvement in speed already. It's 3 times faster...

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Turn it into an ik_llama.cpp k quant, and you should be able to squeeze even more out!

FYI you can find more models like this by looking up a base model (not the instruct) of interest, then clicking on the 'finetunes' category. For example:

https://huggingface.co/models?other=base_model%3Afinetune%3AQwen%2FQwen3-30B-A3B-Base&sort=modified

https://huggingface.co/models?other=base_model%3Afinetune%3Amistralai%2FMistral-Small-24B-Base-2501&sort=modified

This one's also the perfect size for you, but has no finetunes yet: https://huggingface.co/baidu/ERNIE-4.5-VL-28B-A3B-Base-PT


One other thing. A lot of folks (like me) tend to use the base models, not instruct finetunes, in completion mode since they tend to be devoid of AI slop. But you have to prompt them different than a regular LLM: instead of multi turn conversation, you write out a starting block of text for them to 'latch onto', and get them to continue it from your cursor.

But prompt them right, and they will do literally whatever you want, devoid of any sycophancy or guardrails.

Mikupad is great for this since it also shows token probablities. So you can, for instance, click on a critial word, and see what 'choices' the LLM was considering internally as a set of branches, and regenerate from there.

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