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[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Makes sense. I've lived in three Australian cities and getting around on bike, bus, and rail is much easier than driving. Plenty of friends I met never even got a driver's licence.

But as you get away from a city centre, things become challenging. By the time you've left a city region, you enter the Australian sprawl of nasty climate and nothingness between bits and pieces of civilisation peppered around the national map.

It's a land where one state would be the ~~16th largest country~~ (I forgot about WA) 10th largest country in the world. A place where I almost all cities, you can fit several European nations in between your's and the next closest.

It's car use and costs on roads reflects its low population having a density per square kilometre comparable to the scarcist places on the planet. But if you are in a city—at least those I was in—the infrastructure for not having a car is great. You're really punished for driving a vehicle in one, yet many still do and are miserable every morning and afternoon.

[-] gitgud@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, it might also just be cheaper to maintain roads for walking, wheeling, and cycling too. They undergo less stress and pressure, even at much higher usage.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Feels like trains between cities would be way cheaper.

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