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[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I fucking hope, but we already seen that at 1st Trump term and after Biden was elected entire EU again got back to licking US boot, including something as unbelivable as fully allowing nordstream sabotage.

[-] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 days ago

I don’t know what to believe about Nordstream, but I’m not even mad if that accelerates the transition out of fossil fuel.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago

It don't though, it just rises the price of energy because the gas still flows, even more than before, just from USA, Norway and yes, sill Russia, even more of it, but through middlemen. The sabotage also caused significant ecological catastrophe in the Baltic.

About the sabotage itself you have three versions available:

  1. Truth, that USA bombed it, possibly with participation of Norway (note above paragraph, curiously the very same countries that gained the most on it, qui bono, eh?)
  2. USA version, where Ukraine did it, despite lacking means
  3. Official German/EU version, that is no version, because both above versions means that Germany is either vassal (ver1) or war ally (ver2) of country which attacked Germany in a biggest peacetime sabotage in German history.
[-] woodenghost@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

Didn't Biden basically announce the US was gonna do it before it happened?

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago

Yup, and immediately after Polish Foreign Minister Sikorski, closely related to atlanticist circles, thanked USA for that.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Isn't he married to Anne Applebaum?

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Yes, as i mentioned, closely related to atlanticist circles.

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