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Linux users who have Secure Boot enabled on their systems knowingly or unknowingly rely on a key from Microsoft that is set to expire in September. After that point, Microsoft will no longer use that key to sign the shim first-stage UEFI bootloader that is used by Linux distributions to boot the kernel with Secure Boot. But the replacement key, which has been available since 2023, may not be installed on many systems; worse yet, it may require the hardware vendor to issue an update for the system firmware, which may or may not happen. It seems that the vast majority of systems will not be lost in the shuffle, but it may require extra work from distributors and users.

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This implies a world in which motherboard vendors actually regularly publish updates for their boards, or publish information about a board being officially end-of-life, which, for many consumer boards, just isn't the case.

Some vendors still have a red flag on their support page discouraging uefi updates unless you're actively experiencing problems.

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Some vendors still have a red flag on their support page discouraging uefi updates unless you're actively experiencing problems.

I dont know which vendor you are referring to, but that is a horrible practice. There should be active support and release notes stating that "This release is a security fix" at a bare minimum. If your motherboard manufacturer does not offer that, then I could never recommend them to someone. They need to be held to a higher standard.

At least from my experience, ASUS, Dell, and Apple will publish that information.

From https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AX370M-Gaming-3-rev-1x/support#support-dl-bios (manual contains the same, plus a recommendation to keep the default settings):

" Warning: Because BIOS flashing is potentially risky, if you do not encounter problems using the current version of BIOS, it is recommended that you not flash the BIOS. To flash the BIOS, do it with caution. Inadequate BIOS flashing may result in system malfunction."

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Its funny because the release notes for their December '21 BIOS update says:

Major vulnerabilities updates, customers are strongly encouraged to update to this release at the earliest.

And many of their release notes say that they fix security issues. I would say that supercedes the footnote at the bottom that says to update your BIOS only if you're having issues.

Plus, doesn't Gigabyte have A/B BIOS updates? So if you have a failed flash, you can switch to the previous BIOS that was working?

Most of the recent(ish) updates are vulnerability fixes (after all, the platform is over eight years old now), and they've removed various intermediate versions already or there'd be even more.

This board has a dual BIOS, the integrated flashing utility by default only flashes the main BIOS, and you have to enable the option to flash the backup explicitly. Never had to use the backup, afaik it activates automatically if booting the main BIOS fails several times.

My ASUS "only" has a recovery function (flash BIOS from USB stick automatically if bootup fails) and no warning that I could find.

[-] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm pretty sure that warning used to be on the UEFI download page for Biostar boards, but they've completely redesigned it, so if it was them, it isn't there anymore.

I've seen some Asus and MSI Boards getting only uefi updates marked as beta, with the next update, months later, also being marked as beta. With Asus, there have been allegation that they try to get out of warranty claims this way.

I've had less problems with Dell and Lenovo, which probably comes from them being more enterprise focused. I think the problem is that the for the average consumer, uefi updates are last on their mind when picking a board.

Apple, and, to a lesser degree, Lenovo and Dell, seem hardly comparable, since their focus isn't selling mainboards as a stand-alone component.

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