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[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

y position that Tribalism was created through evolutionary pressure.

That was not your position, stop lying

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago

That’s like saying no one should have killed Hitler.

You replied: "Pure Great Man nonsense."

It's a non sequitur!

I didn't even suggest that Trump was a leader who got to power because of his abilities.

I then said this for clarification:

The forces that create the environment for a Hitler to come to power are different than the personality cult that develops after the person is in power.

Which is literally Herbert Spencer's critique of Great Man theory!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_man_theory

Yet you keep arguing!

I'm not sure why you are trying so hard to deflect any criticism of Trump into a societal problem. Trump isn't blameless. He has agency.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

What you said is:

Trump is a cult that dies with him.

And you justified it by claiming it's "evolutionary biology". Substantiate that claim.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

Evolutionary basis of cults:

https://csuepress.columbusstate.edu/context/theses_dissertations/article/1356/viewcontent/best_2018.pdf

Source that cults fail after their leader dies:

The People's Temple (Jonestown)

Heaven's Gate

The Branch Davidians

Children of God

Order of the Solar Temple

Aum Shinrikyo

Modern Cults that survived their leader's death:

Mormons and Scientology.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Those are literal cults, not cults of personality. Trump supporters aren't living with him in a compound, genius.

And that paper isn't about evolutionary biology anyway, stop just linking whatever and hoping no-one checks

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

Cults aren't defined by people living in a compound.

And that paper isn’t about evolutionary biology

The paper referenced evolutionary reasons for cults.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Fucks sake. What are you trying to accomplish here? Everyone can see you're just behaving in bad faith

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago

You threw out the term Great Man theory without even understanding it.

I've refuted every single argument with sources and you keep arguing.

I stated the fact with sources: Cults have an evolutionary basis I stated the fact with sources: Cults tend to die when the leader dies.

You have nothing in reply.

I believe you push Great Man Theory into arguments even when it doesn't apply to absolve Trump of any responsibility.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Again, what are you trying to accomplish here? Nobody is going to miss your obvious bad faith.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago

You keep claiming bad faith when I addressed your arguments directly.

I think outing a Trump apologist is useful.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Lol, you people really are parodies of yourself

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago

Evolutionary justification for cults:

https://csuepress.columbusstate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?params=%2Fcontext%2Ftheses_dissertations%2Farticle%2F1356%2F&path_info=best_2018.pdf

Cults tend to die with their leaders. I've listed many of the cults that died in this thread. Cults surviving the death of their leader is the exception.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Dude, who are you expecting to buy into this...

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You asked for sources and I gave them. You lost and you've been outed as a Trump apologist.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Lol. Come on now.

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