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[-] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Now I really wanna know if that's actually the best advice or sexism. Because I could see that our society might be so bad that this is genuinely good advice.

[-] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 days ago

It’s neither. LLMs are statistical models: if the training material contains bias (women get lower salaries) the output will reflect that bias.

[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago

That's not the question.

It wasn't about whether the LLM was well reasoned, it was about whether the conclusion was (pragmatically speaking) correct.

[-] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 days ago

LLMs do not give the correct answer, just the most probable sequence of words based on the training.

That kind of studies (because there are hundreds) highlight two things:

1- LLMs could be incorrect, biased, or give fake information (the so called hallucinations). 2- the previous point stems from the training material proving the existence of bias in the society.

In other words, having an LLM recommending lower salaries for women is a proof that there is a gender gap.

[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

Again, that wasn't the original question.

The question was about whether women are genuinely more likely to be passed over for a job offer if they ask for as much pay as a man would ask for, or if (as you described), or both. A broken clock is right twice a day, and it's missing the point of the question if you go and explain why you can't rely on said broken clock.

Are hiring managers actually less likely to hire women if they ask for market-rate pay, as opposed to men when they do the same?

[-] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Are hiring managers actually less likely to hire women if they ask for market-rate pay, as opposed to men when they do the same?

If instead of giving passive aggressive replies you would spend a moment to reflect on what I wrote you would understand that ChatGPT reflect the reality, including any bias. In short the answer is yes with high probability.

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