ChatGPT advises women to ask for lower salaries, study finds (thenextweb.com)

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[-] Alsjemenou@lemy.nl 12 points 4 months ago

women who ask chatgtp for financial advice should make less money.

[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

You mean *people. Even though I might not agree. ChatGPT is better at financial advice than alot of people. Just dont ask it how to become rich. Because you cant.

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What if I kill a rich and wear its skin like a suit ?
How do I get its family to accept me as their ruler ?

[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Keep paying for their expenses. It's why they like you to begin with.

[-] tfowinder@beehaw.org 12 points 4 months ago

LLM just mirror real world data they are trained on,

Other than censorship i don't think there is a way to make it stop. It doesn't understand moral good or bad it just spits out what it was trained on.

[-] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Now I really wanna know if that's actually the best advice or sexism. Because I could see that our society might be so bad that this is genuinely good advice.

[+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

That's not the question.

It wasn't about whether the LLM was well reasoned, it was about whether the conclusion was (pragmatically speaking) correct.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

I can't believe we should ever say this. No, the chat machine is the problem.

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

The chat machine is just a tool. The problem is that a pay disparity exists in society, and that they did not account for this bias in the training data.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That disparity gets very narrow when you account for men and women with similar roles, education, time in career and industry.

Much of that pay disparity is from the jobs we pick. There are also social pressure where a man's value is determined by how much he makes. Guys are more willing to do dangerous or demanding jobs that pay more.

The AI is still just reflecting the bias

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Yes, they shouldn't go for those garbage non-paying worthless jobs like nursing and teacher, instead work in finance and take big bets arbitraging out millions from whole economies.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Point is that a male nurse of equivalent education and experience is still paid similarly.

Aggressive jobs that involve competitive industries and high stress like wallstreet which demand a very shit work life balance are not favored by a lot of women I believe. Work/Life balance is something a lot of women have pressure to maintain over men. Like I said though men have more pressure to earn a higher wage. Testosterone is something that just makes men want to compete including earning a higher wage.

[-] upsiforgot@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well...you might want to inform yourself about what a nursing job requires (here's some of the information you might find: high stress yes, working in shifts that are compromising work/life balance yes, work that requires a lot of lifting heavy things- yes...people who believe your sentiments are the problem - yes)

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I'm super familiar with nursing. They are paid extremely well and have great benefits. And I would argue they are still not paid enough.

A better example is PSW workers. They are paid not enough and don't have great benefits and have incredibly hard jobs.

But we're talking about population level stuff here. You need to aggregate the jobs women work not just cherry pick a few. Many of the jobs are not nursing. Likewise there are many jobs men do that are demanding and don't pay well.

[-] match@pawb.social 3 points 4 months ago

the society is also the problem

[-] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

And the study should also mention, that the LLMs don't do anything by themselves, they do what they are trained to do... noting more. They are just machines.

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