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this post was submitted on 23 Aug 2023
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Not a problem. Just subscribe to both. It's no big deal.
Don't do this! The above "issue" already solves this. If I want to see posts from both communities, I'll subscribe to both communities. Posting the same content in both will cause me to see duplicates.
The issue is that due to the different defederation policies, if you want to communicate to the whole fediverse audience, you need to both.
Hexbear, the 8th largest Lemmy instance, cannot access !fediverse@lemmy.world. They have to access !fediverse@lemmy.ml.
On the other side, some users don’t want to subscribe to the .ml version due to the political background of the instance.
So in the end anyone posting have to do it twice, otherwise the audience they want to reach won't see their content.
That’s exactly one of the issues I was pointing out in the post. There should be a unique !fediverse community. But as soon as you suggest this idea, people come saying that the only one should be their one (see above). Which brings you to the audience fragmentation.
It's your choice where to subscribe, and your choice which instance to use. Problem solved.
Sh.itjust.works, the 4th biggest instance, is defederated by beehaw, the 7th largest instance.
Should the 2357 monthly active users of Sh.itjust.works just leave to another instance to be able to access Beehaw communities?
It's also your choice to subscribe to both communities. If you only subscribe to one, then the problem is solved.
Beehaw defederated with instances because they didn't want to interact with its users. If the users of those instances migrate to another instance en masse, then Beehaw will defederate with that instance as well. Give up on interacting with Beehaw, because they don't want the same things that people not registered on Beehaw want.
We need a replacement for subredditdrama to learn about this stuff. I've heard of the instance, but don't know anything about the site's opinions, or how I feel about being defd from them.
There are a few, you can look them up on Lemmyverse.net
Hadn't heard of that yet. I'm check it out.
And also, to give some weight to Beehaw's position, there was a thread two days ago about refederating with SJW in !support@beehaw.org .
A few minutes after the discussion started a SJW account started to post pictures of feces.
I guess that boils down to the point I was asking about in the OP.
Can we/should we have a single community when people can post updates about tools, evolution, etc. of the Lemmy platform, or will people who want to bring content to that audience have to post to all the local !fediverse communities of the instances clusters?
It would be nice if they developed some way to merge communities and splice crossposts together. This is a common issue with many communities.
Besides Beehaw, have any other big instances defederated from lemmy.world? I don't think defederation is a widespread issue.
I mean, beehaw is the 7th biggest.
LW also defederated from Hexbear, which is the 8th biggest.
Beehaw also defederated from SJW, which is the 4th biggest.
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list
The tensions between user bases probably justify the defederations, but it bring the issue I showed in the OP about having a community where all Lemmy users can discuss the platform together.