Carney says he'll only sign a U.S. trade deal 'in the best interest of Canadians' (www.cbc.ca)

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[-] healthetank@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

The question was what has Carney done (or not done) that he said he would (or would not) do.

He was elected on a strong, elbows up approach. So far, he has capitulated on the DST without us seeing any gain or concessions from that. And no, returning to the bargaining table does not count.

Not suspended the DST pending an agreement, but rescinded fully. My point is that he has not taken the firm stance I expected of him.

[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 days ago

What do you expect him to do, as in, what does a "firm stance" look like to you?

[-] healthetank@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Not suspended the DST pending an agreement, but rescinded fully

Its not hard to say "were willing to play ball, provided this leads to an agreement".

I'm not opposed to dropping the DST, I'm opposed to dropping it rather than suspending it so trump will come talk at the table.

[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Trump says "No further negotiations if the DST goes through"

I am asking you specifically, what does a firm stance look like to you in that situation?

What are the consequences of that stance?

[-] healthetank@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

I don't know how to be clearer for you.

A hard stance looks like this:

"Canada values its strong partnership with the United States and acknowledges the concerns raised over our proposed DST. In a show of good faith and commitment to reaching a balanced trade agreement, we are suspending the DST indefinitely.

However, if a mutually acceptable agreement cannot be reached, Canada reserves the right to implement the measure as planned. Our goal remains a fair and forward-looking solution that supports a level playing field for all."

Thus we reached trumps goal - DST doesn't move forward or go through. It stays exactly where it is, but its not a concession for nothing, and makes it clear that the DST remains part of the negotiations.

[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 days ago

What information do you have that says we won't institute the DST in the future if no deal is reached?

[-] healthetank@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

What proof you have he will? He has given no indication of it, and it is currently canceled.

[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

He has given no indication of it, and it is currently canceled.

"To support those negotiations, the Minister of Finance and National Revenue, the Honourable François-Philippe Champagne, announced today that Canada would rescind the Digital Services Tax (DST) in anticipation of a mutually beneficial comprehensive trade arrangement with the United States."

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2025/06/canada-rescinds-digital-services-tax-to-advance-broader-trade-negotiations-with-the-united-states.html

Seems that the rescinding of this legislation is tied to a "mutually beneficial and comprehensive trade arrangement" demonstrating that the DST is not currently completely off the table. In fact, the legislation to rescind it hasn't been tabled yet.

"The June 30, 2025 collection will be halted, and Minister Champagne will soon bring forward legislation to rescind the Digital Services Tax Act."

What information do you have that says we won’t institute the DST in the future if no deal is reached?