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[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago

80 year olds should not be voting on things that are going to effect 16 year old for the rest of their lives without 16 year old having a voice.

Civics courses should be mandatory. Misinformation should be prohibited. Politicians should be prohibited from lying.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

90 year olds shouldn’t be voting on things that are going to affect 2 year olds for the rest of their lives without 2 year olds having a voice. That argument is kinda vague and baseless.

And likewise, why does a 16 year old get to decide how an 80 year old that can’t get to the polls should live their final days? How much OAS they get, or which healthcare they get, etc.

Those old people will die soon and the rest of that 16 year olds life they can vote for whatever selfish things they want to have too. It’s annoying to arbitrarily assume old people are just trying to fuck over the younger generation without a care when that would be wildly unpopular with basically all other age groups.

Honestly I do not think 16 year olds should get to vote. They’ve barely had a chance to have a job (legally 1 year at most) and they haven’t even applied to university or college yet. They broadly don’t know what responsibility is, they don’t know what work is, and they’re not fully mentally mature.

18 sure, life is starting to hit you then. 16 is simply too young and too inexperienced at life to put in a place to decide how we all live.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

90 year olds aren't going to vote for education, childcare, etc. They have a few years left to live. 16 year old have their entire lives to live. Look at what happened in Britain. Old people voted to withdraw from the EU which disproportionately harmed young, mobile professionals.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

A lot of 80/90 year olds have family they love.

I get what you're saying, but I don't think letting 16 year olds vote is the right move.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

All 16 year olds pay into the programs that support the few 90 year olds. They're a pyramid scheme that takes from the young and gives to the old. 16 year olds are old enough to pay taxes and they are old enough to vote.

No vote, no taxes.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Canada's OAS and CPP are not a pyramid scheme, they're based on what you actually put in and guaranteed.

They don't have the solvency issues that US Social Security has.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

My main point:

No vote, no tax.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I would be fine with not charging workers under 18 tax.

When I was that age saving for university wasn’t easy and staying life off with a bunch of debt and no guaranteed job isn’t fun.

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