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People vote in China. Anyways, this is getting off topic. This Chinese GPU should be judged on technical merits, not based on the form of government or whether China adheres to European cultural and political norms. If that's your only issue with it, then it is an admission that it is a competitive product.
This discussion started with the question "is it better to have a democracy or a dictatorship spy on you" but sure.
Interesting quote from your link. I'f they adopt democracy and allow fair elections then it wouldn't be a problem but maybe that's too European for your liking
This was never about performance, I hope we get more competitive products.
Israel is a Western liberal democracy that doesn’t make it good; and Nvidia is helping it commit genocide. I would rather a Chinese company spy on me than an American or European company, more so if said company is complicit in genocide. What will the Chinese government do to me? Nothing.
European-style democracy (US and Israel included) is but one form of government, nations are allowed to choose alternative forms. Judging by the outcomes European-style democracy isn’t even the best form of government. Your intolerance of other forms and desire to enforce your own system on others even when your system is clearly broken and failing can only be explained by chauvinism and tacit racism.
Hmm, yeah the ethno-state that is china has never done anything wrong, especially not to its own citizens.
What will a democratic government do to you?
Sure, but the people of china don't have much say. If they voice a critical opinion they're silenced, doesn't seem like they're allowed to choose.
I'm sure you've heard the Churchill quote: "Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."
You'd rather live under a dictatorship than in a democracy? That's an interesting opinion, not without its merit I'll admit. A benevolent dictator can be the most effective form of government, the problem is what happens after they're gone.
Ethnostate? I think you’re thinking of Israel. The idea of a “Han supremacist” state comes exclusively from Western propaganda, and the “Uyghur genocide” is a psyop[1][2][3].
More propaganda. By their own account, Chinese people feel they’re being heard by their government, much more so than Americans do. You can say whatever you like in the US because free speech here is like shouting at the wind.
Yet more propaganda. Meanwhile the US has never been democratic; it’s always been an oligarchy.
Propaganda can be overcome by developing real media literacy.
Good god, how did you become to confidently wrong?
Because they’ve never heard these things any other way, so