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[-] rollin@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago

Is violent knife crime a thing over there?

yes we've had spikes of knife attacks over recent years, a lot of it is gang related, with kids stabbing rival gang members in tit-for-tat spirals of violence.

Knife crime in general is nowhere near as bad as it is in America (and of course as you point out you guys have gun violence on top of that), but the UK is historically a peaceful country and our tolerance of friends and family being murdered in the street is a lot lower than yours.

[-] rami@ani.social 6 points 1 week ago

historically peaceful

sideeyes all the colonialism

[-] rollin@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

Well. Some of those chaps were carrying knives - without a licence - so we had no choice really.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

One note, and not one to say we don't have a gun problem. But when you tear it down, half the gun deaths are suicides, much of the rest is gang related, remainder being family and friends killing each other. The notion that there's random shootings all over the place is false.

Notice what we report on! Brown people killing each other barely rates a blurb in local media, if any. AR-15 involved? ALL the reporting. Guy went bugshit in Maine, killed a bunch of people, no reporting on the weapon. (It was an AR-10, basically an AR-15.) Random violence gets headlines.

Most gun violence sites rate any shooting on school grounds as a "school shooting". I could pop one off at midnight at the local high school. School shooting! Cop shoots a kid. School shooting! While horryfying, it just doesn't happen as much as it's made out. We had plenty of guns when I was a kid, no school shootings until Columbine popularized the sport.

I feel this gets the point across. You might notice the MotherJones numbers, hardly a conservative site.

Maybe I'll contradict my earlier statement; America doesn't have a gun problem, America has a culture problem. I can illustrate using a local anecdote.

Local guy sees someone breaking into the empty trailer which is on his lot. Motherfucker thought it was A-OK to hide inside the treeline and shoot the guy the next night. He felt within his rights to hunt another human being. People on NextDoor.com were defending the shooter. Well, the cops disagreed, that's murder one.

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