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[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 82 points 1 year ago

Why are the libs so hung up on criticizing socialists? If you don't like this forum then go back to reddit.

[-] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

I’m a socialist but not a tankie. Criticizing tankies!= criticizing socialists

[-] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

What exactly was wrong with Kruschev's decision to send the tanks into Hungary to stop the fascist uprising?

Given the historical context of the literal genocides the US was facilitating in asia and south america at that time, even if you ignore the literal fascist collaborators hijacking the movement and pretend it was just a bunch of liberals fighting for "freedom", keeping them from falling within the west's claws would have been justified.

If your criticism was that the USSR was too heavy handed putting down the fascists, look at what's happened since.

[-] TheBigMike@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Let's take a look what started that "fascist" uprising. Years of economic mismanagement, opression, and being forced to pay a big chunk of their gdp to the Soviets for war reperations were all factors that lead to the Hungarian Revolution.

And who did these "fascist" pick as their leader? Imre Nagy, the man who was ousted from power by the soviets for having the audacity to be a more moderate communist than hardline stallinists.

The US doing something bad doesn't justify someone else doing bad. Think about a nazi who uses that reasoning, they would sound like a nazi apologist.

Yes, the US did some bad stuff, but I still view them as the lesser evil when compared to the USSR or China.

Also Hungary doing something 65 years later doesn't justify the actions of the Soviets.

[-] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Whether the initial protesters had good reason or not, fascists quickly co-opted the movement in the same way they co-opted the liberal protests in Ukraine.

Hungary doing something 65 years later doesn't justify the actions of the Soviets.

Their actions 65 years later prove there were significant numbers of nazis waiting in the wings, and that the soviets were insufficiently oppressive.

[-] TheBigMike@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I couldn't find a single mention of a fascist movement in the uprising. So either it was neglible in size, or you are just lying.

"Insufficiently oppressive". What? Hungary was a really oppressive nation during that time, and you wanted it to be more oppressive?

And opressive to who? Fascist? They can just lie about not being a fascist. That leaves out to just guess who is a fascist and that sounds like a wonderful time for the citizens.

Patton really was correct about the Soviet Union.

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