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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by DwZ@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world

The communist Justin Trudeau wants to tax carbon 😡

But I need this vehicle to buy groceries 😡😡

AX THE TAX 😡😡😡

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[-] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago

I would hope, this ab monstrosity needs at least special drivers licence in most of Europe.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 weeks ago

It seems to be too long. I doubt it would be road legal here. And if it was, by some absurd event, it would probably fall under C category, which is for heavy load vehicles. It would not be something someone would park in a supermarket parking lot.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

AfaIk, to put a vehicle into category car (class B) or truck (class C/C1), its length doesn't matter. The only important factor is the maximum permitted total mass, which is 3.5 t for a 'car' or 7.5 t for a light truck (C1) or 'unlimited' for a regular truck (C).
Essentially, this the limiting factor here to be considered as class B 'car': As the empty mass of that vehicle is probably quite large, it's subsequently not permitted to be loaded with noteworthy amount of freight, to remain below 3.5 t, perhaps not even the 5 people that would fit inside.
Thus, if it's not completely hoax, it only is allowed to be driven by those that have a C1 licence, which is either professionals or, e.g. in Germany, older people who've had that included in their 'class 2' licence.

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In Canada, this thing would have a max gvw roughly around 5500kg and it would weigh about 3, 3500 empty, depending, so max capacity around 2000 kg. That's just a normal license here, the other categories really don't start until 10,000 gvw. Non north americans tend to find that odd, but it's not like we aren't taught how to drive these things same as you guys, categories just differ.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

As I've said, in Germany, until 1998, people got a class 2 'car' driver's licence for vehicles up to 7.5 t and learned driving on a VW Beetle or Golf.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 weeks ago

I have a vague idea there is a limit to the dimensions of a vehicle before it is classified into another category but I will not insist on it.

You didn't notice that monstrosity has three rows of doors? It's probably a 2+3+3 or 2+2+2. So, at least, six passengers.

But I agree. It would most probably fall under C category here, making it a commercial vehicle.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I have a vague idea there is a limit to the dimensions of a vehicle before it is classified into another category but I will not insist on it.

Yes, according to German law (it's probably similar in the rest of EU), the limit is 12 m for cars and 18 m for trucks. Yet, afaIk, it doesn't affect the type of driver's licence necessary for driving such a vehicle.

You didn't notice that monstrosity has three rows of doors? It's probably a 2+3+3 or 2+2+2. So, at least, six passengers.

Yes, but the driver legally doesn't count as passenger and (a part of him) enters the mass of the 'empty' vehicle with 70 kg. So it's either 5 or 7 passengers.

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

See we don't even really have a max length, the usual rule is 23 or 27 meters (depends on province but most interprovincial guys obviously follow the smaller limit) but if you want to be longer, then it's yearly or monthly permits. Regina to Saskatoon on highway 11, 39 meter combos are common.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

In Europe, the maximum length of a combo is 18,50 m and iirc 24 m in the Nordics.

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago

You don't have cube vans, wherever you are from? Maybe "delivery lorries?"

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not that long. The closest thing to this would be a super long cargo van with extended crew cab.

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