Is making hard to get files more accessible always good practice (example in post body)? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 2 days ago by onesixone@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Piracy in Germany often uses direct downloads via one click hosters(you get an url and download from there, people use services like rapidgator.net). These often get hit with copy right strikes and are slow to unusable for free users. Would downloading for example a TV show via this route and then creating a public torrent "good piracy"? (If anyone has a guide on how to create a torrent, pls share)

Reasons why I think it might be not so good:

the groups/people need a motivation to provide the content. Distributing it without their consent might reduce their motivation. They also probably paid for some subscription to get the content
in german context direct download links are often considered safer for people who just want to download, torrenting done wrong can get you pretty high legal fees (500+ €)
it feels like stealing somebody elses effort

Why I think about doing it:

this gives people another way to get the content
torrents are free to use and way faster than those one click hosters (which often give you less than 100kB/s)
the uploader usually profits via affiliate programs, so when someone buys a premium subscription of a one click hoster, they get a share. I think piracy shouldnt be done for profit
people (especially outside germany) might have it easier to access torrents instead oneclick hoster solutions
torrents have no captchas lol

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[-] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago

Not exactly the same as your example but I love getting hard to find stuff and then putting it out there for the public to get.

I'm mainly talking soulseek here but within my preferred music genre there is a lot of elitism and manufactured rareness of tracks what with a lot of vinyl only releases with minimal pressings or digital downloads that are only available for x amount of hours, that kind of bullshit.

This then promotes this culture on soulseek of people locking all their files out to everyone so you need to either trade things or a lot of them will ask you to buy specific releases or send them bandcamp gift cards and the like, to me this goes against the very nature of piracy and really boils my piss.

I love to get access to these people files and getting as much as I can, or ripping vinyl only tracks where I can for myself or buying these "limited" digital tracks when they come up and I have the money (less often these days) and then just sharing them with no locks or trading bullshit.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is it is really satisfying (for me at least) to share this harder to get stuff that people aren't going to find anywhere else and even better a massive fuck you to the elitism and manufactured scarcity within the genre. If you are a soulseek user with locked files reading this, fuck you!

Also torrents are pretty easy to make. I use deluge and qbittorrent and there are options in both of those to create a torrent. You will need a tracker to link to, free ones can be found, then it is just a case of pointing to the files on your computer and it'll create the torrent file for you.

[-] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

Hey if you’re putting this much effort into soulseek and you’re not already, get on one of the private music trackers.

[-] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Meh. Private trackers is just this same attitude of elitism that I don't like bundled into a different form. On top of that I can't even be sure that they would even have the kinds of things I'm looking for, it isn't like I can browse their catalogue first to see if they catered to my niche music taste.

I like soulseek because it is open to everyone and I can just host my entire library for people to go through. I don't have to jump through hoops to get invites and have interviews and all that shit.

[-] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

If you want to know that the music you are interested in is on private trackers, tell me and I’ll look and report back.

I used soulseek a lot and the people who do what you do are on private trackers. I do what you do as well. I found it to be worth my time and not a hassle.

[-] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Hmmm intrigued, what one are you part of?

Im mainly looking for dubstep, the "real dubstep" side of stuff.

Artists like:

Gisaza Lowcase Headland Argo Zha Teffa Kercha 7kidz

Etc..

[-] stupid_asshole69@hexbear.net 2 points 15 hours ago

I found a bunch of music by all those artists on just the two general music trackers, orpheus and red.

Take the time to get on one of those two either by testing in or laddering the Mya tracker and you’ll probably be glad you did.

[-] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago

I appreciate the info, which of those two do you think would be the best to try to get into. I am a myanonamouse member in good standing with uploads as well as a good ratio / uptime etc so I may have a look on their invites section to see if I can get in via there.

Failing that I'll have a look at other ways of getting in as maybe it will be beneficial in the long term for me.

Thanks for taking the time to have a look for me :)