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I'm against noncon/dubcon, whatever label they use to mean rape. This porn is usually used to glorify rape, showing graphic depictions. I'm ok with touching on the themes to condemn it, but nothing I've seen has ever needed it to be shown graphically to make a point and instead turns into fetishization (Goblin Slayer, Outlander, Game of Thrones, etc.). Obviously loli/pedo porn fits under this as well (Made in Abyss). When you're aware (like a SA victim), you see rape culture around you and naturally think it is sick. I want glorified graphic depictions of rape banned, but apparently only puritanical, prude christofacists want it banned so they can oppress everyone with morals. Fuck that, there is a reason games like Rapelay, Rape Day, and No Mercy get a bunch of attention and are then banned. I am ok with consensual porn (produced ethically, so not abusing the IRL actors/actresses). I support LGBT+. Too many people do not understand consent. Bringing up CNC is moot if you do not recognize the first word of that acronym. Even reading Lemmy is exhausting when you read comments saying rape should never be prosecuted without evidence excluding testimony (aka most people should get away with rape), and then read people defending rape games. I looked at collective shout's content and g*mers are sending them rape threats. Wtf.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. I don't have the same personal history with it, but otherwise I feel the same way. Well, I dislike Collective Shout from what I know of it, but I emphatically agree with you that concerns about r*pe culture's expression in media should not just be tarred as "prudishness" glossed over and that kind of rhetoric is disgusting and harmful. I also think it's concerning that dubcon is borderline the default setting, especially in more anime contexts where often the woman is expected as a matter of form to be telling her partner to stop and then that she is ignored.
Like, there are some things that I know Hexbear will get wrong 80% of the time, which I won't get into, but not even being able to handle the criticism het-targeted porn that treats women straight-up viciously is such a miserable low for some of them. They rush so quickly to rainbow-wash it (or some similar tactic) that they refuse to acknowledge that any of it is bad. Sure wonder why. This is supposed to be a fucking communist board, but on this subject they are odious radlibs just as much as the odious radlibs they criticize.
I don't like collective shout overall, they are anti-porn and most likely religious and anti-LGBT. But some of their criticism is correct, like glorified SA and pedo content is inexcusable. Also nothing they have done warrants a rape threat (I mean just going by vibes I don't think anyone, in general, deserves rape threats) and it is concerning that presumably men are making these threats to these women.
I've seen rape/pedo content in tv shows, movies, books, games, and anime. For SA in anime, it's used as the victim (usually a she) really wanted it or is a joke. The victim is seen as submissive to the perpetrator. Also dubcon, "dark romance" is popular in otome genres for some reason. I mean that's the last thing I want when enjoying romance content, is for the person the protagonist likes to assault her. For pedo stuff in anime, always a running gag or just not really addressed.
I have trouble convincing the lib men I know IRL that rape culture is real and needs to be addressed. Of course I had to go over consent because apparently not everyone is on the same page about that even. Ugh. Thanks for listening :)
Yeah, I'm not condoning the r*pe threats, obviously those are bad, but I am pretty sure that they are made by a minority of people and we can't let CS conflate the overwhelmingly valid criticism they receive for the repugnant shit they do with what some shitty splinter contingent says to them, or act like their overall reception has victimized them when they are much more interested in victimizing others.
I'm completely on the same page with you on the rest of it. Thanks again for sharing :)