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[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

Thank you for sharing your perspective. I don't have the same personal history with it, but otherwise I feel the same way. Well, I dislike Collective Shout from what I know of it, but I emphatically agree with you that concerns about r*pe culture's expression in media should not just be tarred as "prudishness" glossed over and that kind of rhetoric is disgusting and harmful. I also think it's concerning that dubcon is borderline the default setting, especially in more anime contexts where often the woman is expected as a matter of form to be telling her partner to stop and then that she is ignored.

Like, there are some things that I know Hexbear will get wrong 80% of the time, which I won't get into, but not even being able to handle the criticism het-targeted porn that treats women straight-up viciously is such a miserable low for some of them. They rush so quickly to rainbow-wash it (or some similar tactic) that they refuse to acknowledge that any of it is bad. Sure wonder why. This is supposed to be a fucking communist board, but on this subject they are odious radlibs just as much as the odious radlibs they criticize.

[-] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

I don't like collective shout overall, they are anti-porn and most likely religious and anti-LGBT. But some of their criticism is correct, like glorified SA and pedo content is inexcusable. Also nothing they have done warrants a rape threat (I mean just going by vibes I don't think anyone, in general, deserves rape threats) and it is concerning that presumably men are making these threats to these women.

I've seen rape/pedo content in tv shows, movies, books, games, and anime. For SA in anime, it's used as the victim (usually a she) really wanted it or is a joke. The victim is seen as submissive to the perpetrator. Also dubcon, "dark romance" is popular in otome genres for some reason. I mean that's the last thing I want when enjoying romance content, is for the person the protagonist likes to assault her. For pedo stuff in anime, always a running gag or just not really addressed.

I have trouble convincing the lib men I know IRL that rape culture is real and needs to be addressed. Of course I had to go over consent because apparently not everyone is on the same page about that even. Ugh. Thanks for listening :)

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I'm not condoning the r*pe threats, obviously those are bad, but I am pretty sure that they are made by a minority of people and we can't let CS conflate the overwhelmingly valid criticism they receive for the repugnant shit they do with what some shitty splinter contingent says to them, or act like their overall reception has victimized them when they are much more interested in victimizing others.

I'm completely on the same page with you on the rest of it. Thanks again for sharing :)

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