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[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Vile.

I trust my wife, and she trusts me. We trust each other not to ask for stupid brain-poisoning shit that humans weren't meant to have access to that could one day blow up horribly.

I don't have her passwords, she doesn't have mine. Our phones are locked. I could technically see what she's doing online I suppose via traffic snooping in the router logs but the day I feel the urge to do something like that is the day I kill myself for having abandoned basic moral principles.

We're apes, we have brains built for avoiding snakes in tall grass and finding water and berries. You poison yourself with surveillance, you feed your worst and most destructive impulses. Practice keeping secrets, practice being okay with not knowing. Trust isn't surveillance, trust is knowing that if something fucking mattered you'd be told.

edit: I want my wife to be able to break my heart because if she does she'll have a good reason for doing so. That is what trust is.

[-] HoopyFrood@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago

I don’t have her passwords, she doesn’t have mine.

Having the means for each spouse to get the others passwords can be pretty essential when dealing with critical emergencies and death. It's good to have some way for someone you trust to get your online accounts when you pass away so that everything can be concluded and canceled and sentimental content preservation and all that.

For my relationship the means to gain access to my password manager are available in the case of an emergency. Maybe shove the credentials in a bank security box and put access to it into your will if you don't feel you can trust your partner with the knowledge while you are alive.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Obviously we have wills lmao

[-] douglasg14b@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's only vile when you project insecurities or bad intent...

We both know each other's passwords for everything. We use a shared database for it. We both know each other's phone, unlock codes and often through laziness will just use each other's phones for shit. We shared the same bank accounts, we don't have separate money. We share the same vehicles....etc

What's mine is hers, what's hers is mine. Except literally.

We also both have each other's location. What do we use this for? Essentially nothing except when one of us is traveling, or someone is feeling neurotic/worried. The peace of mind knowing that your significant other didn't just die in a car crash part way to their destination and are still making progress is significant.

We don't hide things from each other, we've explicitly built a relationship of openness and trust, brought on by us actually_not_ trusting each other for a long time. We are completely transparent, and you know what this has helped build? Trust. Know what it has torn down? Insecurities. It's been great.

Would recommend.

[-] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

The peace of mind knowing that your significant other didn't just die in a car crash part way to their destination and are still making progress is significant.

Bless you but the moment I start being afraid of my partner dying everytime they leave the house will be the moment I'm getting back in touch with my psychologist.

[-] beastlykings@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 week ago

Never went to work in a snowstorm? Or heavy rain?

I'm not OP, but my wife and I share locations, it's endlessly convenient for coordinating. Never abused.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Your sanguine naïveté is enviable.

[-] YerLam@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You were so untrusting you had to go to those lengths to make it so there is no way to lie to each other and you say that's a good thing?

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

Therapy would be better for you than a panopticon.

What if your partner wants to run away from you? Do you not trust that they would have a good reason?

[-] Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 week ago

All they would have to do is turn location sharing off, and change passwords. More likely they would talk about it and agree to split rather than just run off. You know, like adults.

[-] panicnow@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

I’m in the same place as you with my spouse, but we didn’t start with not trusting each other. I just never worry about my spouse knowing things about me—I cannot imagine what I wouldn’t tell her anyway.

My spouse has (multiple) physical journals lying around the house. I would never read them—she doesn’t worry about hiding them.

[-] psivchaz@reddthat.com -2 points 1 week ago

I'm exactly the same. I get that it's not for everyone. I understand that, and respect it. But I hate people framing this as you having a trust issue.

It's the opposite of a trust issue. I trust my wife to be responsible with my bank accounts. I trust my wife to see my location because I also trust my wife to only bother checking if she has a reasonable reason to do so, and to not be a weird paranoid freak if I'm somewhere she doesn't expect. I trust my wife with the password to all my online accounts because it's easier to just share a Bitwarden than it is to segregate everything, and I completely trust her to not invade my privacy.

The thing is, our lives are online. If I get hit by a bus or something, I don't want her to have to deal with my death while ALSO figuring out how to convince banks and insurance companies and whatnot to let her in. Much easier to just share my Bitwarden with her.

I'm not in some panopticon, worrying "Oh no, what will my wife think about me being within 500 yards of an ex's house" or whatever because I totally trust her to trust me. It's just not an issue.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Uhhh, I trust her which is precisely why she has my passwords. Are you guys teenagers or something?

Also, location sharing is literally a form of communication. What if there’s an emergency?

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Yes we're teenagers. We've been married 15 years, ceremony was when we were three.

Privacy is important, have you never kept a diary? Do you film therapy sessions lest your partner not know what you discussed? Shit with the door open? You don't need justification for wanting privacy, you need privacy so when you have a good reason for it nothing looks different.

What if there’s an emergency?

What if there is? Get help, that's an insane fear to live with. If I am unconscious there's nothing to do anyway, the hospital or whatever will find her details in my purse and call. What the fuck am I going to do, sit there watching the dot on the map and calling 000 if it stops moving? You are a lunatic, we have society to take care of us while we're out and about and emergency beacons if you're like camping beyond the black stump or sailing the Pacific.

[-] Usernume@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I imagine this form of abuse is done by sociopaths that convinced their traumatised partners this is actually a good thing.

All the people in this thread that they do it for years amd it's normal? Sociopaths.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

My wife has done courses on warning signs for abusive relationships as part of some mental health first aid certification stuff.

2 biiiiiig red flags are insisting on surveillance and not letting people have separate finances. We have a combined account sure, and also pocket money accounts and whatever else. For all I know she's set up a trust. I mean I don't think she has because she'd probably tell me but she has the freedom to do so.

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Why would you want to give third parties access to your locations?

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