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[-] besselj@lemmy.ca 96 points 1 week ago

Safety concerns aside, you should trust your partner enough to not need to track them

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

If a partner demand they have it on to prove they're not cheating, then they should be looking for a different partner.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Exactly. My girlfriend will disappear for an entire day and not come home until 10pm. I usually have no idea where she is or what she's doing (mainly because I forget due to having ADHD), but I don't worry about it because I know she'll never cheat. How can a person even be with someone who they don't trust? Without trust, there is no relationship IMO.

[-] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

that doesn’t always work out the way you’re expecting though, but I agree, trust should be opt-out.

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[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 week ago

Of all the dystopian things, this is probably the most dystopian thing I’ve read lately.

This is horrible.

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 week ago

People my age have their whole friend groups on location sharing apps like that, it's awful.

[-] Senseless@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wtf? Is this the outcome of growing up with helicopter parents or where are those trust issues coming from?

[-] Deebster@infosec.pub 4 points 1 week ago

I'm assuming this is a young group, and they've grown up in the always-connected, always-surveilled modern world.

I've met plenty of people that are surprised or even suspicious when I say that I try to avoid corporations and governments tracking me. I guess the Overton window has shifted so that people expect and accept constant surveillance.

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[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

If you sacrifice freedom for security, then you deserve neither.

[-] socialsecurity@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago

Patriot act, Snowden, Cambridge Analytica

we already done sacrificed freedom. This is the FO stage

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

"safety is certainly a big part of the appeal for many users – so I allow the app to alert him each time I reach my front door." I'm finding that people are irrationally paranoid these days. They see random acts of violence in the news and think it might happen to them but its so statistically unlikely given these are already unlikely events and these people usually middle class people living in nice areas.

[-] Tanoh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Humans are awful at accessing risk and chance, one of the reasons casinos and lotteries thrive.

Look at fear of flying for an example, all statistics say you are many many many times over more likely to get into a car accident on your way to the airport, than during the flight. Even when the ride to the airport is usually short and the flight very long. Yet people are afraid of flying, but not going by car. By percentage, there are of course those, rightly so, afraid of cars as well.

[-] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

If you can't trust your spouse without location, tracking, find another spouse.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

No they need therapy not another spouse. They shouldn't have a spouse at all until they've fixed their own insecurities.

[-] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

I don't know, it's a pointless thing that I just forgot to turn off at some point. I couldn't care less if she knows where I am and sometimes I do what her to know, like when I go hiking alone.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it is possible to be totally sane about it.

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I have my mom's location, and it's good because she just turned 64 (I think) five minutes ago, I need to wish her a happy birthday, appreciate the reminder. But when she travels out alone, sometimes it's nice to know she got back to her hotel without having to bother her about it, so we do the sharing thing. And for hiking alone, sharing your location with someone beforehand just seems like a good idea.

This article is dumb. Location sharing is silly. People will abuse it, and those same people would've found some other way to abuse the trust in their relationships anyway. I had girlfriends as a kid who'd demand calls when I was at a party they weren't at. Dealing with a lack of trust in a relationship is a growing pain.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago

If your partner doesn't abuse it is fine, but that's also possible to change at any time.

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[-] commander@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

I noticed this becoming more common. Young people do so enjoyably. Old people I hear talk about it, it sounds controlling and bordering on unhinged paranoia. Those young people will be old someday too along with whatever sorts of paranoias they develop like all people seem to do

[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 3 points 1 week ago

At least when they get lost because of dementia it'll be easy to find them.

[-] detren@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

My girlfriend and I share our locations mainly for convenience and safety. It’s nice to know that she’s 3 tram stops away from home so I can start cooking dinner for example. She’s also terrible at responding to texts and calls though lol

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[-] Fondots@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

My wife and I work different schedules. on the rare day off that were both home, she's often out of the house when I wake up. She's not great at replying to texts. I never know when she's going to be home, and usually have no clue what she's out doing or where.

But I know who she's doing while she's gone- no one. Because I trust my wife. I know who she is as a person, I know what our relationship is like.

I have no particular desire to know her location at all times. I'm sure if I asked, she'd share it with me, and I'd do the same for her. I might occasionally do that when I'm off hiking or something in case there's an emergency, but half the time I wouldn't have a signal anyway.

We are two humans with our own lives. Those lives are very intertwined, but we're both allowed to go off and have our own adventures, occasionally some secrets, and we don't need to know where each other is 24/7

[-] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 12 points 1 week ago

My partner and I used to use location sharing pretty much 100% of the time. We just felt better knowing we could find each other.

But today, we do not, because the trust is shattered.

Google just cannot be trusted with our locations.

[-] markko@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

There are options that don't use Google et al.

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[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

If you have to use these things in a relationship, then you already have a problem.

[-] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

This is the correct take.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago

I kind of don't want to send my location to "location sharing" companies to sell to data brokers.

[-] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

That's creepy af

[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I know several people that do this, but most often it's parents with kids. That's still not an excuse though as there deserve their own privacy. In all cases that I've seen though, it's through Apple/iPhones. Now I'm not saying Android users can't or don't do this, but Apple makes it so easy, that it's everywhere and I hate that.

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

This is dumb. Young couples have been plagued by insecurity long before location sharing. Dial the clock back 20 years and I'm your typical high school boy worried about his girlfriend.

I share my location with my wife, and even some buddies of mine. My wife has seen my location when I was at someone's bachelor party. It has nothing to do with sharing location and everything to do with trust in your relationship. I don't have her location to keep tabs on her. I have her location so we can better figure out how to get our kids from places. I have my buddies' locations so if I end up grabbing a beer, I know who's out and about, or when someone goes to Tanzania, I can say, Joe, what the hell are you doing in Tanzania?

Before location sharing you texted, or you called, or you hit me on my pager, or sent me a letter. Technology isn't the problem, it's -- once again -- just us dumb people being dumb.

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[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I do this location sharing with someone.

The only time it crosses my mind to check it is when they are coming to visit or we are otherwise traveling or meeting up.

I thankful for whatever makes it easy for me to just be chill about it. It’s nice to not have to manually mess with an app when needed. And it’s there in an emergency.

Edit: oh shit. This reminds me that I saw one of those 360 something ads recently. I usually avoid tv ads, but happened to see one. It was unhinged in how it was stoking paranoia to sell the tracking. It was targeted at parents.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Vile.

I trust my wife, and she trusts me. We trust each other not to ask for stupid brain-poisoning shit that humans weren't meant to have access to that could one day blow up horribly.

I don't have her passwords, she doesn't have mine. Our phones are locked. I could technically see what she's doing online I suppose via traffic snooping in the router logs but the day I feel the urge to do something like that is the day I kill myself for having abandoned basic moral principles.

We're apes, we have brains built for avoiding snakes in tall grass and finding water and berries. You poison yourself with surveillance, you feed your worst and most destructive impulses. Practice keeping secrets, practice being okay with not knowing. Trust isn't surveillance, trust is knowing that if something fucking mattered you'd be told.

edit: I want my wife to be able to break my heart because if she does she'll have a good reason for doing so. That is what trust is.

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[-] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 6 points 1 week ago

When we need to know each others location, we share it via element / matrix. Our own server, so no third party.

Happens maybe four times a year.

(Also, do you just always have location services enabled?? IMO it's a battery drain, I pretty much only enable it for this and while I need to navigate)

[-] supermurs@kbin.earth 6 points 1 week ago

We only share our locations when for example my wife is coming home from shopping groceries so that I know when to go out to the parking lot to help carry the groceries home.

I had no idea people share locations constantly.

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[-] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I’m pretty sure she’ll think I’m about to pop out from behind a car to scare her.

[-] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

I can’t believe the number of people in here with paranoia and shitty relationships that can’t communicate with their “partner”

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[-] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

People don't have the emotional maturity to deal with this tool.

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Sounds like trust issues

[-] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Me and my partner share locations. Never once have we done this. It's purely a logistical thing. 10x faster to check someone's location when you're supposed to meet them instead of testing them "wya".

[-] beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Same. For this to be a problem, you must first have other problems.

[-] ChexMax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

How old are you guys, if you don't mind me asking? It seems that generally younger people don't see this as an innate violation of privacy, where older people feel quite surveilled and even like they're being viewed as untrustworthy for someone to ask this of them.

I've never cheated on my spouse (not even close), I've never felt any inclination to lie about my whereabouts. I can see the safety aspect of this, logically. I would feel offended if my spouse asked me to be a dot on his phone, as if he was asking to own me. We share a home, a child, a bank account, a car, but we don't share location. I don't even keep my location activated for my own use unless I'm actively navigating somewhere new.

We've got plenty of "normal" problems, but none of them lead me to want his location. I simply trust him enough. It feels to me like if you need your partners location on tap, you must first have other problems

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 week ago

If my partner could check my location at any time, how would I keep bday and anniversary gifts secret? The places where I go to buy things for her are not places I would normally go. She only has to randomly check one time when I'm at an unusual location for her to ask why and then I have to lie. Not worth it.

We use temporary sharing (can limit to one hour) when meeting somewhere. Beyond that, it's a potential liability.

Example: she once got upset that I wanted to go to the mail room (apt building) alone and didn't want her to go with me. She wanted to know what I was hiding. Turned out to be her bday gift and it was just in the commercial packaging with a shipping label. I let her go get it and she's never been suspicious of my motives since (this was at the very start of our relationship and we hadn't established the level of trust that we have now).

Anyway, again, the one-hour sharing is all we need.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The main reason my wife and I don't have location sharing set up isn't because of trust or lack thereof between each other, but because I don't trust proprietary/commercial location-sharing services.

I've been meaning to set up a self-hosted system (mainly because it seems like Home Assistant could do some neat automations with that info), but haven't gotten around to it yet.

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[-] sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

After 30 years of marriage, my wife floated the idea of turning this on. I looked at her like she had two heads.

Why would anyone be willfully surveilled? You know its not just your partner that has access to that data when you have location services enabled.

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 week ago

I don't want to share my location nor have anyone else's shared with me.

Friends and partners can text "I'll be there in 5"

My friend shares her location with her mother. Her mother then nags her with like "Are you seeing someone new? You're spending a lot of time in north brooklyn now." Like, who needs that, or even the temptation of that?

A tech solution is not going to fix a social/mental problem like fear of cheating.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

I am of multiple minds on it.

I very much do like the idea of sharing your location (once you are in a committed relationship). Knowing when your partner is coming home or stuck at work or at the grocery store is useful. Same with knowing that someone can check in on you if something horrible happens. And I have 100% shared my location temporarily for that.

The problem is that... you don't always want to do that. And explaining that becomes a mess.

At its core it is opt in versus opt out but it also can trigger the kinds of conversations that are really better suited to a lot later in a relationship. Like with prenups. There are a lot of REALLY REALLY REALLY good reasons to have them but it is the kind of topic that you can't even raise without having the implication of "I don't trust you".

[-] omniman@piefed.zip 3 points 1 week ago
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