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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 weeks ago

Cryptocurrency is the solution here, and unfortunately that's an unpopular take here.

[-] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

That's because 90% of cryptocurrency marketing consists of "THINK OF THE GAAAAAAINS YOU CAN MAKE!" instead of "You can use this to buy things without government censorship".

The entire crypto industry has based itself around being a speculative asset, not a currency.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Which is really unfortunate. If you avoid the most popular coins (Bitcoin, Ethereum, etc), you avoid most of the scams and speculation and end up with a decent currency that respects your privacy and has low fees.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yup, Monero is probably the best option. I've heard good things about Z-cash, and Bitcoin can work on the lightning network.

[-] cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago
[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Monero is perhaps the best option imo. Here's the official page about it, but basically:

  • not profitable to mine, so most miners are enthusiasts who want the coin to succeed
  • privacy-focused - basically creates a ton of fake transactions to mislead snoopers
  • relatively popular - seems to be the most popular coin recommended by privacy enthusiasts (e.g. Mental Outlaw, he even gives a discount on his store for Monero)
  • not popular among speculators - they mostly stick to the big ones (BTC and ETH), as well as new startup coins
  • low cost transactions, fairly short transaction window

It's far from ubiquitous, but it's popular enough that if a place accepts any crypto, there's a good chance they accept Monero as well.

[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago

Is it really the best option when no business uses them?

[-] emmy67@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Not when exchanges still govern taking money out. They are businesses like everything else and will be just as risk averse

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

It's pretty easy to switch between cryptocurrencies, so they can surely find an exchange that is friendly to their business. That's way better than the credit card situation where there are only four major processors--Visa, Mastercard, Discover, and American Express--and only two of those actually matter.

[-] emmy67@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

None of what you said addresses the problem I mentioned.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Then I guess I don't understand your problem.

Payment processors like Visa and Mastercard control a huge chunk of the market, which gives them a lot of say in what transactions are allowed. Even if you avoid credit, most debit cards go through those two companies, so they can restrict what transactions you can make.

With cryptocurrencies, there's no restriction at the point of sale. Your problem seems to be that converting crypto to fiat could be problematic, and they'd potentially be stuck with "useless" currency. My point is that's a much easier problem to solve:

  • if their exchange stops converting a given currency, they can convert to one they do accept
  • if their exchange bans their account (e.g. due to the nature of their business), they can switch exchanges
  • there are ATMs that dispense cash for crypto
  • if no exchange will work with them, they can make direct exchanges with regular people (i.e. "launder" the money)
  • they can also spend the currency directly

There are a ton of options to convert crypto to fiat, there are far fewer to select a different fiat payment processor.

[-] emmy67@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'll bet.

R placing a bad system with a worse system does not solve the problem

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