How did you learn languages to navigate this world, pirates ? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

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My friend is looking for a resource to become fluent in French, he is forced to work with it. Asked to find a certain book, but it is not yet pirated on the resources of the wiki. My guess is that pirates have better alternatives for such a thing, so I'm launching a discussion.

I only ever heard about the book "Minna no Nihongo" in the context of learning Japanese.

EDIT: Thanks everybody.

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[-] Eq0@literature.cafe 14 points 3 days ago

There are some limitations though: often native speakers don’t have a deep understanding of the grammar rules they use, because they use them intuitively. So sometimes learning this way makes it a bit foggy. I often use this technique when I’m already familiar with the target language, At a basic level.

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

And a lot of native speakers just straight up use incorrect grammar. eg loads of native English speakers say things like "could of", use "then" instead of "than", use punctuation incorrectly, do incorrect sentence structure, etc.

I don't mean to be prescriptive about language. Of course it evolves based on usage. But in any formal environment, such as an academic environment, there are still certain defined and canonised English grammar rules that you would be penalised for breaking, and most learners want to learn those rules even if most casual speakers don't follow them.

[-] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 7 points 3 days ago

That's exactly why you want to do this. When people speak casually or are making jokes, nobody speaks with grammar in mind. Gathering this intuition for the language is exactly what I'm looking for when learning.